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Harper and Cons halted prisoner transfers without bothering to tell anyone and while dissing the opposition.

The Canadian people really need to thank Amnesty International and the BC Civil Liberties Union for taking the Conservative Government of Canada to court to try and stop Afghan prisoner transfers. For without that court case, the documents they obtained in the course of that court fight that showed the Conservatives KNEW there were credible cases of torture going in with prisoner transfers in Afghanistan never would have seen the light of day, and without that document being revealed, who knows when the Government of Canada would have admitted that prisoner transfers were halted in November without any announcement, which they only divulged because they were involved in this court case, and even then, only because they were trying to get the two groups to drop their case?

I read an interesting letter on the Globe and Mail comment board about this issue. A fellow printed off what he said was a November 14th exchange from Hansard in Parliament between a BQ member, Mr. Claude Bachand, and Maxime Bernier, the foreign minister. Mr. Bachand asked Mr Bernier if the Conservatives were prepared to stop the transfers because of the reports of torture. Mr. Bernier replied that NATO had done interviews and there were no evidence of systematic torture amongst detainees, but if they had the evidence, the Afghans would do an investigation.

IF this exchange is true (and I’ve yet to look up the Hansard records for this date), above and beyond the ridiculousness of asking the alleged torturers to investigate themselves, Bernier misled the House in my opinion for failing to reveal that the government had already stopped the prisoner transfers because of evidence they had. He should be forced to resign immediately. Need I also mention how many times the Conservatives accused the opposition parties of loving the Taliban more then the Canadian troops during this exchange, and how all these allegations was all Taliban propaganda that a bunch of naive opposition parties were falling for? All of this was going on while the Cons. stopped the transfers and kept it from the House of Commons and the Canadian public, while bashing the opposition parties in an attempt to score partisan points and support for the Afghanistan mission.

I’ve seen multiple reasons in a short period of time here to justify bringing this Conservative government down right now and force an election. They have demonstrated they are unfit to govern this country.

9 comments to Harper and Cons halted prisoner transfers without bothering to tell anyone and while dissing the opposition.

  • Scott Tribe: I just looked up the quote in Hansard you refer to in your post and it reads as the gentleman in the G&M comments section described it. Just in case you hadn’t checked yet I thought you might like to know.

  • Good find, Bailey.
    Your link is broken. Here’s a link to Wherry’s exposé

  • Bailey

    Aaron Wherry over at Maclean’s has a good list of all of the questions asked in the House of Commons related to prisoner transfers after November 5th.

    http://forums.macleans.ca/advansis/?mod=for&act=dip&pid=101987&tid=101987&eid=62&so=1&ps=0&sb=1

  • Whooee! A couplafew questions come to mind.

    They say they stopped handing over detainees to Afghan authorities back in early November. Have they captured any since then? If so, to whom were they handed over? Are we still holding them?

    Now that they are able to confirm that torture was taking place, what steps have been taken to ascertain what has become of the prisoners handed over prior to the incontrovertible proof that made them cease the transfers?

    At one time, it was a trick to ask a question like: "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?" Now, Harper has shamelessly told us (albeit unwillingly) that they stopped violating the Geneva Conventions back in November.

    Will the Con’s apologize for referring to anyone who suggested (accurately) that we were handing over detainees to be tortured as Taliban sympathizers? Now that they are no longer handing over prisoners, are the Con’s also Taliban sympathizers?

    And, another big question: How long will Dion and the Liberals continue to give the Harper carte blanche  by abstaining from confidence votes?

    JB

  • oops… sorry about the double post… the first didn’t show up at first… my bad

  • Raphael…. the government has been vindicated??? did I read that right???

    That’s an interesting take because normally when most people who have supposedly been falsly accused to doing certain awful things (which this situation would fall under the category of) have been "vindicated", as you put it, they would be yelling it from the rooftops and telling every soul, news camera and reporter within a 1000 km radius. But no, not the Conservatives. I guess they wanted to keep all that vindication to themselves and just bask in it’s glory in private.

    Give me a break Raphael. This is as much a vindication for the Harper Government as a gun shot wound is this fall’s hotest fashion accessory. You party just can’t admit when they screw up, and instead of doing the decent and responsible thing (which would be to go before the House and say "You were right, we were wrong, we apologize for all those slanderous comments about you supporting the Taliban), they just try to ignore it and hope it goes away. Harper is running the Government of Canada, not a Dairy Queen stand.

  • Raphael…. the government has been vindicated??? did I read that right???

    That’s an interesting take because normally when  most people who have supposedly been falsly accused to doing certain awful things (which this situation would fall under the category of)  have been "vindicated", as you put it, they would be yelling it from the rooftops and telling every soul, news camera and reporter within a 1000 km radius. But no, not the Conservatives. I guess they wanted to keep all that vindication to themselves and just bask in it’s glory in private.

    Give me a break Raphael. This is as much a vindication for the Harper Government as a gun shot wound is this fall’s hotest fashion accessory. You party just can’t admit when they screw up, and instead of doing the decent and responsible thing (which would be to go before the House and say "You were right, we were wrong, we apologize for all those slanderous comments about you supporting the Taliban), they just try to ignore it and hope it goes away. Harper is running the Government of Canada, not a Dairy Queen stand.

  • kursk

    Can’t even begin to tell you how wrong your take is on this issue, but i will say, if this is the issue you would like to take the Conservatives down on, by all means pull that plug!!. Should be interesting to see how the public would take the Liberals bringing down the govt. by supporting the enemy defacto.  

  • Keep spinning, Scott. The government has been vindicated, and your best argument is "but, but, they didn’t tell us!" [Where the hell is Aaron these days? I’m doing his job]

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