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Poor Steve.. he can’t catch a break

I’ve been out this evening, so I’m just catching up on the Chuck Cadman bribery allegations story, but I almost (almost) feel sorry for Harper and the Cons. They bring forth a Budget that the Liberals can’t stomach an election over, and a day later that gets wiped off of the front pages with this affair that Kady O’Malley calls “what could well be the biggest political scandal to hit the Harper government since taking office”. I doubt this will do much for a boost in the polls for Harper; indeed, if the allegations are true, it’s a Criminal Code offence.

Interesting too that the main person behind the allegations – Chucks wife Dona – is the Conservative candidate in her husband’s former riding in the next general election. What motivation would she have to lie? She’ll be a hard target to take down by smear.

[email protected]:00am: Per Steve V at his comments section in the aforementioned link: Chuck’s daughter backs up her mom’s statements and said her Dad told her about the life insurance claim as well. This story has legs.

10 comments to Poor Steve.. he can’t catch a break

  • wilson

    ”And by the way, we don’t "know" anything”

    We know Duffy knew days before the vote,  that Cadman would support Martin, because of insurance concerns.
    Unless you think he is lying.

    We know, as revealed on the tapes,  that PMSH knew weeks before the vote, that Cadman was going to vote to support Martin, because of  ’financial concerns but he respected Cadmans decision, and thought his guys were wasting their time trying to persuade Cadman otherwise’. 
    Unless you think PMSH is lying,  and he knew nothing about life insurance and Cadman’s decision.

    We know that in the bio , Dona  said even she did not know how Chuck was going to vote,  the decision was made minutes before the vote.  Chuck said the same on CTV.

    So, are Duffy and PMSH lying about knowing how and why Cadman was going to vote to support Martin? 
    Or did Cadman make his decision minutes before the vote?

  • Cara

    Cadman’s decision to vote with the Liberals was also guided by a poll showing the vast majority of his constituents did not want an election. 

  • Gayle

    "Cadman had to vote with the Liberals, because if he did not, there would have been an election. Simple as that. An election could have ment that if he did not get re-elected,  he would have lost his government-paid life insurance. I believe the Conservatives probably offered to provide life insurance to Cadman if he did not win the election his vote would have precipitated if he voted against the Liberals."I am not sure why you think this is relevant because in this scenario the cons would still be guilty of bribery under s. 119 of the criminal code, and Cadman would have been just as guilty if he had accepted it.This is absolutely different from Stronach, because crossing the floor to become a liberal, for whatever reason, is not a criminal offence. Buying a vote in Parliament is. Perhaps this is why the RCMP ignored the Stronach matter and yet are investigating the Cadman matter.Here is the thing – the reason this story has legs is more than the allegations. It is also the fact that Harper and his people keep saying things that are contradicted when more facts come out. Harper’s recorded statement to this authour is damning and contradicts what he was saying for the previous 24 hours.

  • Jay

    It appears that Tom Flanigans book confirms that meeting and also mentions that they visited Cadman several times not just that once. 

  • john

    I heard that in addition to offering a million dollar life insurance policy on the dying cancer patient, they also offered to make the Earth square instead of round. Said one Liberal member of the ethics committee: "forget about bribery, we’re now talking about the conservatives threatening the very shape of the planet. Just think what that will do to the seasons!!!"

  • MississaugaJoan

    MY take on all this (and not what all Liberals want to hear).

    MPs have standard benefits including life, health and dental and airline flight insurance coverage paid entirely by the government. If an MP loses an election, they lose these benefits.

    Even if you are seriously ill, the government pays an MP’s life insurance.

    Cadman had to vote with the Liberals, because if he did not, there would have been an election. Simple as that. An election could have ment that if he did not get re-elected,  he would have lost his government-paid life insurance.

    I believe the Conservatives probably offered to provide life insurance to Cadman if he did not win the election his vote would have precipitated if he voted against the Liberals.

    I believe Cadman felt more secure with the status quo, and an election was averted, and the government continued to pay for his life insurance.

    I believe that’s why Cadman never mentioned the offer while he was alive. It would have drawn attention to a possible reason why he backed the Liberals rather than the Conservatives.

    Unfortunately, this bribe, or offer to purchase someone their pension if they lost an election, is no better than questions that could be asked about a former Conservative (who came second at it’s leadership convention only one year earlier) became a Liberal Minister just prior to that infamous vote.

  • john

    Yup, smearing a dead man out of political desperation,

    that sounds like a winner.

  • kursk

    How bad you must want this to be true..if only someone could pin something on big bad ‘ole Steve..! Keep digging, one day you will find dirt, because you sure can’t touch the man when it comes to governance

    Not with your leader.

    Why don’t you get Cherniak on the case, he’s good at manufacturing evidence to fit the ‘crime’….

    Had to love Ujal Dosanjh though, condemning the Conservatives out of one side of his mouth, whilst knowing he was part of the enticement team which did promise perks to Belinda to entice her to switch parties and her vote.He was even trying to switch the story with his own version of the truth..now it is a bribe of a million dollars!

    Alas, he is but a partisan hack, and we can expect no better..

    Isn’t it a tad rich for a Liberal to complain about buying  anyones vote ??!!!..isn’t that how the Liberals maintained power for decades?

    ….and smearing a dead man? Seems to me Mr.Cadman sold his principles to be able to hold on to death benefits, and all it took was to vote against his conscience…

  • Gayle

    Wilson, you must be out of breath, what with all your running around from liblog site to liblog site trying to spin this. Come to think of it, you must be dizzy too. And by the way, we don’t "know" anything, except that Duffy has been scrambling around all day trying to fix this for Harper. Trust you, though, to resort to smearing a dead man in a weak attempt to save face for your party. Hey – since they apparently have millions of dollars to buy votes in Parliament, I think you should ask for a raise. After all, you have been working hard the past 24 hours.

  • wilson

    If Dona wasn’t lying,  then Chuck was.
    Chuck was a folk hero of sorts, straight shooting Reformer that voted the will of his constitutents. His bio, from Dona’s recollections, says so.
    Sad now, that we all know that Chuck voted Lib to ensure his family could carry on without him, isn’t it.
     

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