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The Cons. trying to shift arguments for not repatriating Omar Khadr.

I find it interesting how much gyrations this Conservative government is going through in trying to justify why it should remain the only Western nation to not repatriate it’s citizens from Guantanamo Bay – or in this case, citizen, as only 1 by the name of Omar Khadr is there.

First, it was that they had to let the “process” take place at Guantanamo because he was facing very serious charges.

Then, the reason became that Khadr was a litmus test in showing the world how serious Canada was on terror. That was a false argument if there ever was one. Everyone knew that “the world” was code for “the US”, and even this argument fell flat on its face when Britain and Australia repatriated their citizens without any charges of them being “weak” – they faced no such repercussions from the US administration for doing this, and indeed, they faced public pressure to repatriate their citizens from the Guantanamo facility. The only “litmus test” Canada has likely faced is the world wondering how far Canada had slid down the scale in its support of human and constitutional rights, and being a lapdog for George Bush’s view on citizen’s rights when it came to “national security”, and would this nation still stand up for those. On that score, the Conservatives have failed that litmus test miserably.

Then, we’re told by Stephen Harper that Canada had “no real alternative” to trying Khadr in Canada, which was basically Conservative Harper-speak code for “we think Canada’s justice system has too many quaint liberal notions in place, like rule of law, due process, and allowing a defendant to be properly defended – we think Canada’s courts might actually find Khadr innocent”

Finally today, we now are told by the new PMO spokesperson that all they’re doing is following the Liberals lead on the file – regardless of the revelations revealed since then in both Canada’s and the US Supreme Court regarding Khadr’s treatment and the constitutionality of Guantanamo Bay’s tribunals. In short, its the Liberals fault he’s still there, but don’t look to us to fix that.

The public attitude of Canadians is shifting dramatically over this treatment (or lack thereof) of Khadr, and his rights being violated quite openly. The Cons. realize this as well – hence their gyrations of trying to justify to Canadians why they have shown no leadership on this file, and why only Canada is left alone in the world to defend or find no fault with the US position on Guantanamo.

UPDATE: Red Tory shows why the latest argument about “the Liberals did it too” is a rather non-starter for an argument

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6 comments to The Cons. trying to shift arguments for not repatriating Omar Khadr.

  • kwittet

    not when he is accused and facing trial in another country for a crime against a citizen of another country

  • Hilary

    Canada’s abandonment on Khadr is especially disappointing. There is a petition to ask that the Prime Minister, Stephen Harper, protect his citizens here: http://go.care2.com/15898432

  • kwittet

    Omar Khadr is accused of being a terrorist – he is not deemed a terrorist until he is given a trial and convicted of such – something the US has failed to do in the 6 years they’ve held him… and only now are they trying to start a military tribunal – which does not allow a proper defence of him by his defence team – it is in essence a kangaroo court assured of conviction.

    OK..you got me on the part that this is taking way to long to have a trial but here is one fact you have wrong. He was fighting for the taliban which IS a TERRORIST organization. Also he was in a battle field so should this be a civilian court trying him? I think not. He should be tried is a US court as he was captured by americans.

    He’s innocent of this terrorism charge until proven guilty – or did you forget that part of the law, Kevin?

    HEY..you got me on this one!!!

    You are correct about his father and his family.. but the kid was BRAINWASHED and forced into attending these camps, Kevin – since the age of 9. He was captured as a child solder at the age of 15. The sins of the family should not be hoisted onto the kid.

    Ok..not that I am doubting that he “could” have been brainwashed but it has never been proven.
    The term child soldier does not apply(in my opinion) in this case. Soldiers wear uniforms and fight for thier country. The “taliban” that he was fighting with are fighting for the right to continue to terrorize the country in which they live. Drugs, body counts and the annihilation of OUR society over here is there sole purpose behind the way they train there people to hate us. SHould he be held accountable for the way of life he was raised in under his family? YES.

    Besides, under international law – which both Canada and the US have signed onto, he is supposed to be rehabilitated because of both factors – but Canada and the US are violating that treaty.

    Do you think he can be rehabilitated?? Is it something that you could say for certain that he will never go back tohis old ways? Would you want him living under your roof or next to you and your family? I know I dont want any of that family anywhere’s near mine!! Yes you are right..they are violating the treaty and yes you are right that the US is taking WAY WAY to long to get this to trial..and yes you are right that Harper hasnt done enough..but i think all that he should be doing is putting pressure on them to get on with it.

    Scott. I dont always agree with everything harper and company do and in this case not all of it i agree with. lets say we bring him back here and try him here..he killed a man in battle. In some countrys and his motherland muder is punishable by death. here in canada monors get out when they turn 18..so he would be free to either spread his brand of terrorism here. I didnt forget the law. Did the taliban keep with international law when they beheaded civilians? I know that you are going to say two wrongs dont make it right but we are not dealing with rational people here. they send there kids into crowds with bombs to blow up innocents!!!these people with there brand of religious fanatacal views are barbaric…do they deserve the sympathy of the people whom they are trying to murder? I pray for our society if there are more people who are sympathetic than arent!!

    I realize Conservatives like you are supposed to be all for law and order.. but it appears in this instance most of you forget the “law” part of the equation.

  • Kevin:

    You’re free to leave your views on here anytime you like, but if you’re going to come on here and type stuff.. at least get your facts straight.

    Omar Khadr is accused of being a terrorist – he is not deemed a terrorist until he is given a trial and convicted of such – something the US has failed to do in the 6 years they’ve held him… and only now are they trying to start a military tribunal – which does not allow a proper defence of him by his defence team – it is in essence a kangaroo court assured of conviction.

    He’s innocent of this terrorism charge until proven guilty – or did you forget that part of the law, Kevin?

    You are correct about his father and his family.. but the kid was BRAINWASHED and forced into attending these camps, Kevin – since the age of 9. He was captured as a child solder at the age of 15. The sins of the family should not be hoisted onto the kid.

    Besides, under international law – which both Canada and the US have signed onto, he is supposed to be rehabilitated because of both factors – but Canada and the US are violating that treaty.

    I realize Conservatives like you are supposed to be all for law and order.. but it appears in this instance most of you forget the “law” part of the equation.

  • kwittet

    I think harper will suffer..only in the muslum community. I dont want this terrorist back in canada. all harper should be doing is putting pressure on the us to speed up the trial…other than that maybe REVOKING his canadian citizenship ans well as his whole familys and sending them all back to where ever the hell they came from..jesus..are you guys friggin blind? his dad is an associate of bin laden..his dad sent him to a camp to become a trained terrorist…the whole dam family has publicly stated that they hate canada and the values here so why dont they get there sorry asses back on the first flight home then?? i am not going to hide under national security..if that was you on that battle field he would still pull the trigger even if he knew you were defending his butt…body count is all these people are about…he is NOT a soldier..no uniform..this is sickening that some people feel sorry for them…leftys..sick

  • I think that Harper still believes that he will suffer no political damage from not repatriating Khadr. There are a lot of people who hate the Khadr family and Khadr as well and their feelings get in the way of any consideration of the question of his rights. The blogosphere is crawling with creeps who wouldn’t know a violation of rights when it is staring them in the face. When it comes to suspected terrorists otherwise rational enough people simply run for the security blanket of Canadian security needs.

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