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		<title>By: Today&#8217;s Levant-Jaunt</title>
		<link>http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/2009/02/04/hypocrisy-thy-name-is-the-blogging-tories/comment-page-1/#comment-18146</link>
		<dc:creator>Today&#8217;s Levant-Jaunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 03:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JustinT</title>
		<link>http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/2009/02/04/hypocrisy-thy-name-is-the-blogging-tories/comment-page-1/#comment-18130</link>
		<dc:creator>JustinT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-18125&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Aurelia&lt;/a&gt; - I&#039;m a Laurier Club member and I&#039;ve actually gotten 2 pins in the mail and got an invite to an event a couple of days ago.  I&#039;m not sure about the problems you are having.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-18125' rel="nofollow">@Aurelia</a> &#8211; I&#8217;m a Laurier Club member and I&#8217;ve actually gotten 2 pins in the mail and got an invite to an event a couple of days ago.  I&#8217;m not sure about the problems you are having.</p>
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		<title>By: jay</title>
		<link>http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/2009/02/04/hypocrisy-thy-name-is-the-blogging-tories/comment-page-1/#comment-18128</link>
		<dc:creator>jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SLG: I can&#039;t speak to whether or not Iggy gave money to the party (I could care less quite frankly) but I can tell you according to the research done by   http://1anxiousliberal.wordpress.com/ Layton has given the most of any party leader and it is over 10,000 over the course of several years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SLG: I can&#8217;t speak to whether or not Iggy gave money to the party (I could care less quite frankly) but I can tell you according to the research done by   <a href="http://1anxiousliberal.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://1anxiousliberal.wordpress.com/</a> Layton has given the most of any party leader and it is over 10,000 over the course of several years.</p>
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		<title>By: slg</title>
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		<dc:creator>slg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I see CTV hasn&#039;t changed - Tom Clark pointed it out on his show last night.  Didn&#039;t point out CPC, NDP or Green donations by leaders, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I see CTV hasn&#8217;t changed &#8211; Tom Clark pointed it out on his show last night.  Didn&#8217;t point out CPC, NDP or Green donations by leaders, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Aurelia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aurelia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 05:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That may be what they say they do for the Laurier club members CWTF, but they don&#039;t actually do it.

I&#039;m a part of it, and I&#039;ve never gotten a pin, an invite, or sweet fuck all. If I didn&#039;t call to remind them to give me my tax receipt, they&#039;d never even bother to mail that.

Trust me, there is a reason the Liberals hardly raise any money. Sigh...

And the bit about quarterly reports does not apply to regular monthly withdrawals. They are all in one annual report filed after the end of the year. Mostly because the banks find it easier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That may be what they say they do for the Laurier club members CWTF, but they don&#8217;t actually do it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a part of it, and I&#8217;ve never gotten a pin, an invite, or sweet fuck all. If I didn&#8217;t call to remind them to give me my tax receipt, they&#8217;d never even bother to mail that.</p>
<p>Trust me, there is a reason the Liberals hardly raise any money. Sigh&#8230;</p>
<p>And the bit about quarterly reports does not apply to regular monthly withdrawals. They are all in one annual report filed after the end of the year. Mostly because the banks find it easier.</p>
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		<title>By: CWTF</title>
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		<dc:creator>CWTF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 04:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ MC
&lt;i&gt;Advantages to Achieving Laurier Club Status:
Invitations to exclusive Laurier Club functions across the country, attended by prominent members of the Liberal Party
The occasion to meet business and community leaders with similar values
The opportunity to receive an inside look at the world of politics, while growing civic skills through an established network of Laurier Club contacts
Insider teleconference updates and briefings
Free access to events organized by the Liberal Party headquarters
A Laurier Club lapel pin, which symbolizes support of the Liberal Party of Canada
The knowledge of being an instrumental component in carrying a winning Liberal message to Canadians.&lt;/i&gt;
https://www.liberal.ca/laurier_e.aspx

Of course you may also find this interesting
&lt;i&gt;Laurier Club status does not apply to contributions made to local ridings, candidates, leadership and nomination contestants. &lt;/I&gt;

From http://1anxiousliberal.wordpress.com/
&lt;i&gt;There has been a lot of talk as to why there is no record of Ignatieff making a donation to the Liberal Party in 2008.  Below is some information about these quarterly reports, because people have been questioning what these reports are.  So far, no one, and let me repeat that NO ONE, has come forward and shown where Elections Canada does have a record of a donation from Ignatieff.  All I have seen is assurances that he has, attacks on me or attacks on Elections Canada.  Typical political spin.&lt;/I&gt;
So where are the records of Iggy giving to the party?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ MC<br />
<i>Advantages to Achieving Laurier Club Status:<br />
Invitations to exclusive Laurier Club functions across the country, attended by prominent members of the Liberal Party<br />
The occasion to meet business and community leaders with similar values<br />
The opportunity to receive an inside look at the world of politics, while growing civic skills through an established network of Laurier Club contacts<br />
Insider teleconference updates and briefings<br />
Free access to events organized by the Liberal Party headquarters<br />
A Laurier Club lapel pin, which symbolizes support of the Liberal Party of Canada<br />
The knowledge of being an instrumental component in carrying a winning Liberal message to Canadians.</i><br />
<a href="https://www.liberal.ca/laurier_e.aspx" rel="nofollow">https://www.liberal.ca/laurier_e.aspx</a></p>
<p>Of course you may also find this interesting<br />
<i>Laurier Club status does not apply to contributions made to local ridings, candidates, leadership and nomination contestants. </i></p>
<p>From <a href="http://1anxiousliberal.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://1anxiousliberal.wordpress.com/</a><br />
<i>There has been a lot of talk as to why there is no record of Ignatieff making a donation to the Liberal Party in 2008.  Below is some information about these quarterly reports, because people have been questioning what these reports are.  So far, no one, and let me repeat that NO ONE, has come forward and shown where Elections Canada does have a record of a donation from Ignatieff.  All I have seen is assurances that he has, attacks on me or attacks on Elections Canada.  Typical political spin.</i><br />
So where are the records of Iggy giving to the party?</p>
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		<title>By: M-C</title>
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		<dc:creator>M-C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 03:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Laurier Club is not &quot;akin to an insiders access to upper party members…&quot; - it&#039;s just another mechanism to attract members and donations for the party. A large part of the members are actually students (like myself). 

I have to agree with Ted, the amount of unfounded accusations and rumours that are going around on Tory blogs these days is impressive. It looks like some are trying to start full-on attacks on Ignatieff, but they can&#039;t find any issue with enough truth for it to catch on. I&#039;ll give them a passing grade for imagination, but all in all it&#039;s starting to look like desperation to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Laurier Club is not &#8220;akin to an insiders access to upper party members…&#8221; &#8211; it&#8217;s just another mechanism to attract members and donations for the party. A large part of the members are actually students (like myself). </p>
<p>I have to agree with Ted, the amount of unfounded accusations and rumours that are going around on Tory blogs these days is impressive. It looks like some are trying to start full-on attacks on Ignatieff, but they can&#8217;t find any issue with enough truth for it to catch on. I&#8217;ll give them a passing grade for imagination, but all in all it&#8217;s starting to look like desperation to me.</p>
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		<title>By: CWTF</title>
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		<dc:creator>CWTF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 02:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many Liberal bloggers were pointing out that Iggy had not donate much to the Liberal party. This is before Warren K said that he donated to/via the Laurier Club. It might be true but I have not seen the proof, unlike the other donations... Is there a link to who donates via the Laurier Club? Let&#039;s not forget that the Laurier club is akin to an insiders access to upper party members...
&lt;i&gt;As I said, the point that is being made is not only was the claim being made about Iggy incorrect, &lt;/i&gt;


Do you really think that it&#039;s fair to compare bloggers with politicians benefiting directly from the party? I may say some nice things and comments about Mulcair and Duceppe but I sure would never support their party...
&lt;i&gt;but the rather blatant double-standard being used. I know you’re not an Iggy-lover, but you have to concede that point.&lt;/i&gt; Sure there is a double-standard, but it&#039;s no more egregious than the one within the Liberal blogger community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many Liberal bloggers were pointing out that Iggy had not donate much to the Liberal party. This is before Warren K said that he donated to/via the Laurier Club. It might be true but I have not seen the proof, unlike the other donations&#8230; Is there a link to who donates via the Laurier Club? Let&#8217;s not forget that the Laurier club is akin to an insiders access to upper party members&#8230;<br />
<i>As I said, the point that is being made is not only was the claim being made about Iggy incorrect, </i></p>
<p>Do you really think that it&#8217;s fair to compare bloggers with politicians benefiting directly from the party? I may say some nice things and comments about Mulcair and Duceppe but I sure would never support their party&#8230;<br />
<i>but the rather blatant double-standard being used. I know you’re not an Iggy-lover, but you have to concede that point.</i> Sure there is a double-standard, but it&#8217;s no more egregious than the one within the Liberal blogger community.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 02:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SDA has a post up. Bourque had the headline up at midday but I think, after a few emails from supporters in the know, he was taken down.

Taylor doesn&#039;t but yesterday (and many other days) he put up a particularly egregious lie about Ignatieff accepting illegal donations from the Democratics in the US. Not a shred of reality to the accusation but he doesn&#039;t change his post. (Bourque had that one up too but was also forced to back down.)

With the eggregious smears against Casey, and all of this, you have to wonder what&#039;s up with all of the lying to spread mud? It used to be that they&#039;d actually do some thinking and planning into their lies and mudslinging but these are just too easy to disprove.

Just how afraid Iggy or desperate over the economy are the Cons?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SDA has a post up. Bourque had the headline up at midday but I think, after a few emails from supporters in the know, he was taken down.</p>
<p>Taylor doesn&#8217;t but yesterday (and many other days) he put up a particularly egregious lie about Ignatieff accepting illegal donations from the Democratics in the US. Not a shred of reality to the accusation but he doesn&#8217;t change his post. (Bourque had that one up too but was also forced to back down.)</p>
<p>With the eggregious smears against Casey, and all of this, you have to wonder what&#8217;s up with all of the lying to spread mud? It used to be that they&#8217;d actually do some thinking and planning into their lies and mudslinging but these are just too easy to disprove.</p>
<p>Just how afraid Iggy or desperate over the economy are the Cons?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Tribe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Tribe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 02:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim: I did a little update to my post which addresses your questions about that list and why Warren listed those particular ones. If true there is nothing on those specific ones, then its my presumption that was wrong, and I suspect he was just listing those big blogs off and their owners to make a point about the hypocrisy in trying to attack this (particularly when the charge isn&#039;t true).

 As for the links to the specific Conservative sites that did do these attack lines, if not the ones in Warren&#039;s original list..  you&#039;ll need to ask Warren specifically which blogs he saw - other then Bourque, which he specifically listed as seeing.  He wouldn&#039;t have said so otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim: I did a little update to my post which addresses your questions about that list and why Warren listed those particular ones. If true there is nothing on those specific ones, then its my presumption that was wrong, and I suspect he was just listing those big blogs off and their owners to make a point about the hypocrisy in trying to attack this (particularly when the charge isn&#8217;t true).</p>
<p> As for the links to the specific Conservative sites that did do these attack lines, if not the ones in Warren&#8217;s original list..  you&#8217;ll need to ask Warren specifically which blogs he saw &#8211; other then Bourque, which he specifically listed as seeing.  He wouldn&#8217;t have said so otherwise.</p>
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