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	<title>Comments on: A Green Guelph?</title>
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		<title>By: Pample the Moose</title>
		<link>http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/2009/06/30/a-green-guelph/comment-page-1/#comment-19583</link>
		<dc:creator>Pample the Moose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose the big question to ask is whether or not the Greens will be a significant factor in the next election at all.  I write this as someone who voted provincially for them last time around - and in Guelph no less.

I tore my hair out in frustration when May was stupid enough to run against Peter McKay.  I think that had she run last time in Guelph, she could have taken the riding (Frank Valeriote, who won, only secured 32.2% of the vote to 21% for Mike Nagy of the Greens).  But up against an incumbent (the seat was open last time), and with the economy rather than the environment as the hot issue, I think she&#039;ll face a greater challenge.  It&#039;s not an impossible one, but it will be harder this time than last.  Mind you, if the NDP don&#039;t decide to run a star candidate like they did last time, it might help the Greens pick up some protest votes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose the big question to ask is whether or not the Greens will be a significant factor in the next election at all.  I write this as someone who voted provincially for them last time around &#8211; and in Guelph no less.</p>
<p>I tore my hair out in frustration when May was stupid enough to run against Peter McKay.  I think that had she run last time in Guelph, she could have taken the riding (Frank Valeriote, who won, only secured 32.2% of the vote to 21% for Mike Nagy of the Greens).  But up against an incumbent (the seat was open last time), and with the economy rather than the environment as the hot issue, I think she&#8217;ll face a greater challenge.  It&#8217;s not an impossible one, but it will be harder this time than last.  Mind you, if the NDP don&#8217;t decide to run a star candidate like they did last time, it might help the Greens pick up some protest votes.</p>
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		<title>By: Bluegreenblogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bluegreenblogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guelph is the best shot for a win. It&#039;s not the only one, but it is the best, for many reasons. In response to Matt above, Mike Nagy won&#039;t be running there next general election anyway. There might be a wee bit of backlash from the locals, as EMay got plenty of flack from these people over her controversial &#039;strategic voting&#039; faux pas in the last election, but the organisation there is pretty damned strong. Any dissenters will be outweighed by volunteer strength brought in from the rest of Ontario.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guelph is the best shot for a win. It&#8217;s not the only one, but it is the best, for many reasons. In response to Matt above, Mike Nagy won&#8217;t be running there next general election anyway. There might be a wee bit of backlash from the locals, as EMay got plenty of flack from these people over her controversial &#8217;strategic voting&#8217; faux pas in the last election, but the organisation there is pretty damned strong. Any dissenters will be outweighed by volunteer strength brought in from the rest of Ontario.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Guerin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Guerin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting suggestion, although part of the reason the Greens have done well in Guelph is that local candidate Mike Nagy has gradually built up the local organization over 3 elections.  May parachuting in wouldn&#039;t necessarily work as well for her and there could be a backlash.  And up against a popular local incumbent in Frank Valeriote, she might have a difficult time.  But it wouldn&#039;t be impossible.  She might be better off in Bruce-Grey where the local Green vote has been higher than in Guelph the last two elections (2007 and 2008.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting suggestion, although part of the reason the Greens have done well in Guelph is that local candidate Mike Nagy has gradually built up the local organization over 3 elections.  May parachuting in wouldn&#8217;t necessarily work as well for her and there could be a backlash.  And up against a popular local incumbent in Frank Valeriote, she might have a difficult time.  But it wouldn&#8217;t be impossible.  She might be better off in Bruce-Grey where the local Green vote has been higher than in Guelph the last two elections (2007 and 2008.)</p>
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		<title>By: JimBobby</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimBobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whooee! I reckon Gwelp&#039;s Lizzie May&#039;s best bet, too. I suspect she might rather stay down east in her Nova Scotia home area but I think she&#039;ll do better in Gwelp. A good thing about runnin&#039; in southern Ontariariario is that she can depend on a lotta volunteers comin&#039; in and knockin&#039; on doors for her. Gwelp&#039;s just a hop-skip from Trawna. I&#039;d probbly even wander up from Nanticoke and pound on a few doors myself. Much as I mighta wanted to, I couldn&#039;t justify travellin&#039; all the way down to Pictou last election and, besides, I was dang busy workin&#039; on the Green campaign here in Haldimand-Norfolk.

Mark Taylor mentioned Bruce-Grey-Owen Sound as a possibility based on good GPC results last time. I don&#039;t see that one as a good possibility on accounta the last GPC candidate (Hibma) is a Bruce Power employee. They&#039;re the biggest local employer and even though the GPC is strongly anti-nuke, I figger he got lotsa fellow employees votin&#039; for him. That wouldn&#039;t be the case with Lizzie. I reckon Bruce Power would try nukin&#039; Lizzie outta the water if she was to challenge &#039;em on their home turf. I&#039;m fightin&#039; &#039;em down here in Nanticoke an&#039; they&#039;re puttin&#039; up a good fight. I&#039;m plannin&#039; on winnin&#039;, though.

Like somebuddy already said, if Lizzie&#039;s plannin&#039; on runnin&#039; in Gwelp, she better get movin&#039; ASAP. She better get livin&#039; there. I seen her up in Aberfoyle a year or so ago. She&#039;s up on a lotta the local issues already. Yer boy Iggy was down here a coupla weeks ago an&#039; he didn&#039;t know much about local stuff. He&#039;s a pretty good brainiac when it comes to international stuff but he needs to get up to speed on local issues more. Lizzie shines in that department, sez I.

JB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whooee! I reckon Gwelp&#8217;s Lizzie May&#8217;s best bet, too. I suspect she might rather stay down east in her Nova Scotia home area but I think she&#8217;ll do better in Gwelp. A good thing about runnin&#8217; in southern Ontariariario is that she can depend on a lotta volunteers comin&#8217; in and knockin&#8217; on doors for her. Gwelp&#8217;s just a hop-skip from Trawna. I&#8217;d probbly even wander up from Nanticoke and pound on a few doors myself. Much as I mighta wanted to, I couldn&#8217;t justify travellin&#8217; all the way down to Pictou last election and, besides, I was dang busy workin&#8217; on the Green campaign here in Haldimand-Norfolk.</p>
<p>Mark Taylor mentioned Bruce-Grey-Owen Sound as a possibility based on good GPC results last time. I don&#8217;t see that one as a good possibility on accounta the last GPC candidate (Hibma) is a Bruce Power employee. They&#8217;re the biggest local employer and even though the GPC is strongly anti-nuke, I figger he got lotsa fellow employees votin&#8217; for him. That wouldn&#8217;t be the case with Lizzie. I reckon Bruce Power would try nukin&#8217; Lizzie outta the water if she was to challenge &#8216;em on their home turf. I&#8217;m fightin&#8217; &#8216;em down here in Nanticoke an&#8217; they&#8217;re puttin&#8217; up a good fight. I&#8217;m plannin&#8217; on winnin&#8217;, though.</p>
<p>Like somebuddy already said, if Lizzie&#8217;s plannin&#8217; on runnin&#8217; in Gwelp, she better get movin&#8217; ASAP. She better get livin&#8217; there. I seen her up in Aberfoyle a year or so ago. She&#8217;s up on a lotta the local issues already. Yer boy Iggy was down here a coupla weeks ago an&#8217; he didn&#8217;t know much about local stuff. He&#8217;s a pretty good brainiac when it comes to international stuff but he needs to get up to speed on local issues more. Lizzie shines in that department, sez I.</p>
<p>JB</p>
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