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	<title>Comments on: Turnabout is fair play on Harper&#8217;s statement</title>
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		<title>By: Scott Tribe</title>
		<link>http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/2009/09/11/turnabout-is-fair-play-on-harper/comment-page-1/#comment-20289</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Tribe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 04:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-20288&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@kwittet&lt;/a&gt;, you haven&#039;t read too many blogs then if you&#039;re calling mine the National Enquirer.

As Jeff said and &lt;a href=&quot;http://bcinto.blogspot.com/2009/09/blog-its-not-majority-its-message.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;explained&lt;/a&gt; over at his site, it&#039;s not the fact he said he wants a majority, but it&#039;s the message Harper portrayed about what he&#039;d do with it if he got it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-20288" rel="nofollow">@kwittet</a>, you haven&#8217;t read too many blogs then if you&#8217;re calling mine the National Enquirer.</p>
<p>As Jeff said and <a href="http://bcinto.blogspot.com/2009/09/blog-its-not-majority-its-message.html" rel="nofollow">explained</a> over at his site, it&#8217;s not the fact he said he wants a majority, but it&#8217;s the message Harper portrayed about what he&#8217;d do with it if he got it.</p>
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		<title>By: kwittet</title>
		<link>http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/2009/09/11/turnabout-is-fair-play-on-harper/comment-page-1/#comment-20288</link>
		<dc:creator>kwittet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 01:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-20286&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Jon Pertwee&lt;/a&gt;, and this blog here NEVER gets sensationalistic? I call this the national enquirer of all blogs.(sorry scott..i know we are cousins but it is just my opinion)  but you defend it? case in point..the secret taping of harper..god forbid him that he should want a majority and yet this blog slams him for being so arrogant to want that????????
and you just soak it up..thats not sad..it hilarious!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-20286" rel="nofollow">@Jon Pertwee</a>, and this blog here NEVER gets sensationalistic? I call this the national enquirer of all blogs.(sorry scott..i know we are cousins but it is just my opinion)  but you defend it? case in point..the secret taping of harper..god forbid him that he should want a majority and yet this blog slams him for being so arrogant to want that????????<br />
and you just soak it up..thats not sad..it hilarious!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Pertwee</title>
		<link>http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/2009/09/11/turnabout-is-fair-play-on-harper/comment-page-1/#comment-20286</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Pertwee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 21:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-20281&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@kwittet&lt;/a&gt;, yes it is very disgusting the bias that the Sun used to &quot;report&#039; the story.  Truly sensationalistic and just to sell some more papers. Truly digusting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-20281" rel="nofollow">@kwittet</a>, yes it is very disgusting the bias that the Sun used to &#8220;report&#8217; the story.  Truly sensationalistic and just to sell some more papers. Truly digusting.</p>
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		<title>By: kwittet</title>
		<link>http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/2009/09/11/turnabout-is-fair-play-on-harper/comment-page-1/#comment-20281</link>
		<dc:creator>kwittet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 11:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is disgusting

http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2009/09/12/10853101-sun.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is disgusting</p>
<p><a href="http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2009/09/12/10853101-sun.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2009/09/12/10853101-sun.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gayle</title>
		<link>http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/2009/09/11/turnabout-is-fair-play-on-harper/comment-page-1/#comment-20276</link>
		<dc:creator>Gayle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-20275&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Joan Richard&lt;/a&gt;, You only have to review the career and decision of our Chief Justice to see that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-20275" rel="nofollow">@Joan Richard</a>, You only have to review the career and decision of our Chief Justice to see that.</p>
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		<title>By: Joan Richard</title>
		<link>http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/2009/09/11/turnabout-is-fair-play-on-harper/comment-page-1/#comment-20275</link>
		<dc:creator>Joan Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gayle, I couldn&#039;t have said it better.  Of course, judges have differing views based on experience and a lot of other variables, but it is their mandate and responsibility to interpret the laws according to precedent, legislation, the Charter and thoughtful deliberation. It is not their choice to interject their own personal ideologies into that process.  Fortunately, judges of all stripes, in Canada, have put aside personal views to come to the right judgements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gayle, I couldn&#8217;t have said it better.  Of course, judges have differing views based on experience and a lot of other variables, but it is their mandate and responsibility to interpret the laws according to precedent, legislation, the Charter and thoughtful deliberation. It is not their choice to interject their own personal ideologies into that process.  Fortunately, judges of all stripes, in Canada, have put aside personal views to come to the right judgements.</p>
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		<title>By: Gayle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gayle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-20273&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Optimus P&lt;/a&gt;, The problem is with your assumption that legal opinion depend on political affiliation.

It is never a matter of &quot;views&quot;, but rather one of interpretation. Judges have to assess the facts and come to a legal conclusion, but that conclusion is not in a void. It is based upon legal precedent. The fact that other judges do not agree with the interpretation is obvious, however so long as that interpretation is based on legal precedent rather than political affiliation it is a legitimate decision (even if ultimately overturned).

By way of example, I have heard many CPC supporters opine that SSM would not be legalized but for all those liberal judges. I disagree. SSM was legalized because the Charter and precedent. I do not believe it would have mattered who appointed the judges. Contrast this with the US, where some judges are elected and risk losing their position on the bench if they render an unpopular decision. Legal decisions should not be based on what is popular but rather what is right.

From what I have seen, judicial decisions in this country have never been a function of the political views of the judge. I would hate to see that change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-20273" rel="nofollow">@Optimus P</a>, The problem is with your assumption that legal opinion depend on political affiliation.</p>
<p>It is never a matter of &#8220;views&#8221;, but rather one of interpretation. Judges have to assess the facts and come to a legal conclusion, but that conclusion is not in a void. It is based upon legal precedent. The fact that other judges do not agree with the interpretation is obvious, however so long as that interpretation is based on legal precedent rather than political affiliation it is a legitimate decision (even if ultimately overturned).</p>
<p>By way of example, I have heard many CPC supporters opine that SSM would not be legalized but for all those liberal judges. I disagree. SSM was legalized because the Charter and precedent. I do not believe it would have mattered who appointed the judges. Contrast this with the US, where some judges are elected and risk losing their position on the bench if they render an unpopular decision. Legal decisions should not be based on what is popular but rather what is right.</p>
<p>From what I have seen, judicial decisions in this country have never been a function of the political views of the judge. I would hate to see that change.</p>
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		<title>By: Optimus P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Optimus P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gayle, Joan, with the greatest respect, you&#039;re both kidding yourselves.  Different judges have different views on different issues, just like the general population. If there were only one &quot;correct&quot; way to interpret laws, we wouldn&#039;t even need judges because the answers would be self-evident.  Legal judgments are appealed and overturned every day by judges who disagree with other judges.  So it is on the Supreme Court as well, where a great many landmark decisions have 5-4 or 6-3 decisions.

My point was that it&#039;s hardly surprising for a Conservative to believe that a supposedly non-partisan judiciary or bureaucracy appointed almost entirely by Liberal governments would be Liberal-oriented.  If the parties were in each other&#039;s shoes I&#039;d certainly expect Liberals to make the same sorts of allegations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gayle, Joan, with the greatest respect, you&#8217;re both kidding yourselves.  Different judges have different views on different issues, just like the general population. If there were only one &#8220;correct&#8221; way to interpret laws, we wouldn&#8217;t even need judges because the answers would be self-evident.  Legal judgments are appealed and overturned every day by judges who disagree with other judges.  So it is on the Supreme Court as well, where a great many landmark decisions have 5-4 or 6-3 decisions.</p>
<p>My point was that it&#8217;s hardly surprising for a Conservative to believe that a supposedly non-partisan judiciary or bureaucracy appointed almost entirely by Liberal governments would be Liberal-oriented.  If the parties were in each other&#8217;s shoes I&#8217;d certainly expect Liberals to make the same sorts of allegations.</p>
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		<title>By: Joan Richard</title>
		<link>http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/2009/09/11/turnabout-is-fair-play-on-harper/comment-page-1/#comment-20272</link>
		<dc:creator>Joan Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gayle, you are so right.  I have always considered judges to be fair-minded, non-partisan lawyers who have demonstrated intelligence,integrity and impartiality in their professional behavior.  Ideology is for (some) polititians and should not be part of the judiciary.  Harper is trying to change that and we will all be worse off if he succeeds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gayle, you are so right.  I have always considered judges to be fair-minded, non-partisan lawyers who have demonstrated intelligence,integrity and impartiality in their professional behavior.  Ideology is for (some) polititians and should not be part of the judiciary.  Harper is trying to change that and we will all be worse off if he succeeds.</p>
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		<title>By: Gayle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gayle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is wrong to consider any of the appointments on the basis of who appointed them.  Judges were once lawyers. Lawyers are supposed to know the law. The law is not based on your personal opinion. Appointments are made by politicians, but, at least until Harper came along, they were vetted by a non-partisan committee, including other judges. Harper changed that to take judges out of the mix and put his own people in instead. That said, the law is the law and it should not matter who is appointed,so long as that person has demonstrated they have the ability to perform the function appropriately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is wrong to consider any of the appointments on the basis of who appointed them.  Judges were once lawyers. Lawyers are supposed to know the law. The law is not based on your personal opinion. Appointments are made by politicians, but, at least until Harper came along, they were vetted by a non-partisan committee, including other judges. Harper changed that to take judges out of the mix and put his own people in instead. That said, the law is the law and it should not matter who is appointed,so long as that person has demonstrated they have the ability to perform the function appropriately.</p>
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