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	<title>Comments on: Valid points for debating the Conservative Government&#8217;s handling of H1N1.</title>
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		<title>By: Big Winnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Winnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HarperBizzaro had a great article, obliterating claims that it was the fault of the Liberals:

http://harperbizarro.blogspot.com/2009/11/vaccine-contract-mytherlie.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HarperBizzaro had a great article, obliterating claims that it was the fault of the Liberals:</p>
<p><a href="http://harperbizarro.blogspot.com/2009/11/vaccine-contract-mytherlie.html" rel="nofollow">http://harperbizarro.blogspot.com/2009/11/vaccine-contract-mytherlie.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Canadiansense</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canadiansense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-21000&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Mark Francis&lt;/a&gt;, 

Mark Francis the problem with fearmongering, distorting the facts, creating confusion and hysteria the TRUTH has a way of coming out.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health/h1n1-swine-flu/more-than-half-of-vaccine-doses-sitting-in-storage/article1351752/

numbers compiled from government sources show that provincial authorities have so far injected fewer than three million doses, or less than half of the available supply.

While blame for the lack of progress in getting needles into arms has fallen on everyone from the federal government to the provinces and the vaccine maker, public health officials said yesterday that the provinces weren&#039;t ready because they thought Ottawa&#039;s approval process would go more slowly.

Perry Kendall, British Columbia&#039;s public health officer, said delivery of the shots is lagging because of Ottawa&#039;s quicker than expected approval of the H1N1 vaccine. The infrastructure for administering the inoculations, which includes volunteers and vaccinators, was ready to begin rolling on Nov. 9, but Health Canada gave its approval the week of Oct. 26.


SO SUPPLY was NEVER a problem.

A simple Math test proves the cuts in Billions from the Federal Liberals in the 90&#039;s, Bob Rae&#039;s decision to cuts in students from medical schools is to blame?

Fewer than three million doses, or less than half of the available supply has been used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-21000" rel="nofollow">@Mark Francis</a>, </p>
<p>Mark Francis the problem with fearmongering, distorting the facts, creating confusion and hysteria the TRUTH has a way of coming out.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health/h1n1-swine-flu/more-than-half-of-vaccine-doses-sitting-in-storage/article1351752/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health/h1n1-swine-flu/more-than-half-of-vaccine-doses-sitting-in-storage/article1351752/</a></p>
<p>numbers compiled from government sources show that provincial authorities have so far injected fewer than three million doses, or less than half of the available supply.</p>
<p>While blame for the lack of progress in getting needles into arms has fallen on everyone from the federal government to the provinces and the vaccine maker, public health officials said yesterday that the provinces weren&#8217;t ready because they thought Ottawa&#8217;s approval process would go more slowly.</p>
<p>Perry Kendall, British Columbia&#8217;s public health officer, said delivery of the shots is lagging because of Ottawa&#8217;s quicker than expected approval of the H1N1 vaccine. The infrastructure for administering the inoculations, which includes volunteers and vaccinators, was ready to begin rolling on Nov. 9, but Health Canada gave its approval the week of Oct. 26.</p>
<p>SO SUPPLY was NEVER a problem.</p>
<p>A simple Math test proves the cuts in Billions from the Federal Liberals in the 90&#8242;s, Bob Rae&#8217;s decision to cuts in students from medical schools is to blame?</p>
<p>Fewer than three million doses, or less than half of the available supply has been used.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Francis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@wilson: The problem was, it&#039;s hard to enforce guidelines at clinics. If you show up, and claim you have a certain health issue which qualifies you to get the shot, how are they to know? In Toronto, I looked to attend a clinic last week with my 4 year-old, and they advertised high-risk only. They only vaccinated others who insisted, and didn&#039;t advertise that.

The vaccinate anyone who shows up policy wasn&#039;t a problem until it was suddenly announced that there would not be enough vaccine this week.

I&#039;m tired of people missing the point: H1N1 can&#039;t be allowed to mutate. That&#039;s why the vaccinations for it were so important. It&#039;s not because it is more deadly than normal flu, it&#039;s because it&#039;s been in circulation already. This is the pattern which leads to a mutated virulent flu.

Canada was late *ordering* the product. It&#039;s a lot more than one week late. Everything, including trial work, could have been done much earlier. Other countries managed to get it much sooner, with trials done.

Finally, stats on flu deaths are based on models. For every recorded flu death, there are many more not noticed, and the models reflect that. Ditto with H1N1. The 97 deaths due to h1n1 are counted deaths. The actual total is higher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@wilson: The problem was, it&#8217;s hard to enforce guidelines at clinics. If you show up, and claim you have a certain health issue which qualifies you to get the shot, how are they to know? In Toronto, I looked to attend a clinic last week with my 4 year-old, and they advertised high-risk only. They only vaccinated others who insisted, and didn&#8217;t advertise that.</p>
<p>The vaccinate anyone who shows up policy wasn&#8217;t a problem until it was suddenly announced that there would not be enough vaccine this week.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m tired of people missing the point: H1N1 can&#8217;t be allowed to mutate. That&#8217;s why the vaccinations for it were so important. It&#8217;s not because it is more deadly than normal flu, it&#8217;s because it&#8217;s been in circulation already. This is the pattern which leads to a mutated virulent flu.</p>
<p>Canada was late *ordering* the product. It&#8217;s a lot more than one week late. Everything, including trial work, could have been done much earlier. Other countries managed to get it much sooner, with trials done.</p>
<p>Finally, stats on flu deaths are based on models. For every recorded flu death, there are many more not noticed, and the models reflect that. Ditto with H1N1. The 97 deaths due to h1n1 are counted deaths. The actual total is higher.</p>
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		<title>By: wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-The feds sent out guidelines for high risk groups that should be first in line for the H1N1 shot, September 16/09,  the Provinces did not follow the guidelines:

http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/media/nr-rp/2009/2009_0916-eng.php

-Alberta still held 300k (of the 700k received) doses of H1N1 vaccine, when clinics were shut down this weekend,
due to staff shortages and a re-allignment with the Federal guidelines.

-China secured enough vaccine for only 5% of their 1.3 Billion population,
Canada has already distributed enough vaccine for 18% of Canadians.

-GSK was manufacturing vaccine for the seasonal flu,  this flu kills 4000 Canadians a year,
so was ONE week later getting started with the H1N1 vaccine, 
H1N1 as of yesterday has caused 97 deaths in Canada.

-The Govt of Canada insisted on safety, the killed vaccine takes longer to produce, and trials to be completed before the realease of the vaccine.

-In the US a medical group was in court first week in October fighting the US mass vaccination program, as the first vaccine available in the US was LIVE, suspect in infections, and not thouroughly tested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-The feds sent out guidelines for high risk groups that should be first in line for the H1N1 shot, September 16/09,  the Provinces did not follow the guidelines:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/media/nr-rp/2009/2009_0916-eng.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/media/nr-rp/2009/2009_0916-eng.php</a></p>
<p>-Alberta still held 300k (of the 700k received) doses of H1N1 vaccine, when clinics were shut down this weekend,<br />
due to staff shortages and a re-allignment with the Federal guidelines.</p>
<p>-China secured enough vaccine for only 5% of their 1.3 Billion population,<br />
Canada has already distributed enough vaccine for 18% of Canadians.</p>
<p>-GSK was manufacturing vaccine for the seasonal flu,  this flu kills 4000 Canadians a year,<br />
so was ONE week later getting started with the H1N1 vaccine,<br />
H1N1 as of yesterday has caused 97 deaths in Canada.</p>
<p>-The Govt of Canada insisted on safety, the killed vaccine takes longer to produce, and trials to be completed before the realease of the vaccine.</p>
<p>-In the US a medical group was in court first week in October fighting the US mass vaccination program, as the first vaccine available in the US was LIVE, suspect in infections, and not thouroughly tested.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott,

Butler-Jones has now admitted that the 10 yr contract with GSK obliges it to produce vaccine for Canada, however, it does not oblige Canada from getting the vaccine from another source as has already been done with the Aussie suppliers. Here is the link;

http://www.healthzone.ca/health/newsfeatures/swineflu/article/720188--ottawa-rethinks-plan-for-flu-shot-suppliers

Here is a direct quote from the article: 

&quot;Butler-Jones said the terms of the contract with GlaxoSmithKline, which Public Works said could only be obtained through a request under the Access to Information and Privacy Act, does not prohibit Canada from purchasing vaccine from another supplier – as it did when it bought 200,000 doses of adjuvant-free vaccine from Australia for pregnant women last week – but he said there are no plans to do that for the regular version because there is no global excess of vaccine and he expects shipments to ramp up next week&quot;

So much for another Cons misinformation.

I watched the debate last night and was wondering whether Rob Clarke was goint to shed a few tears when he stated how upset he was with the opposition parties politicizing the issue. Then he repeatedly brought up the unfortunate incident of the 10% from a Lib MP (who had since apologized). I guess he did not think it was politicizing when he does it himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott,</p>
<p>Butler-Jones has now admitted that the 10 yr contract with GSK obliges it to produce vaccine for Canada, however, it does not oblige Canada from getting the vaccine from another source as has already been done with the Aussie suppliers. Here is the link;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.healthzone.ca/health/newsfeatures/swineflu/article/720188--ottawa-rethinks-plan-for-flu-shot-suppliers" rel="nofollow">http://www.healthzone.ca/health/newsfeatures/swineflu/article/720188&#8211;ottawa-rethinks-plan-for-flu-shot-suppliers</a></p>
<p>Here is a direct quote from the article: </p>
<p>&#8220;Butler-Jones said the terms of the contract with GlaxoSmithKline, which Public Works said could only be obtained through a request under the Access to Information and Privacy Act, does not prohibit Canada from purchasing vaccine from another supplier – as it did when it bought 200,000 doses of adjuvant-free vaccine from Australia for pregnant women last week – but he said there are no plans to do that for the regular version because there is no global excess of vaccine and he expects shipments to ramp up next week&#8221;</p>
<p>So much for another Cons misinformation.</p>
<p>I watched the debate last night and was wondering whether Rob Clarke was goint to shed a few tears when he stated how upset he was with the opposition parties politicizing the issue. Then he repeatedly brought up the unfortunate incident of the 10% from a Lib MP (who had since apologized). I guess he did not think it was politicizing when he does it himself.</p>
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		<title>By: Christina Monroe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina Monroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I am lucky enough to live in a remote location, Yellowknife, NT so I got my H1N1 vaccine last week. I give credit to the NT health minster MLA Sandy Lee for running a well thought out clinic. We had a 6 day clinic in Yellowknife, they have now moved onto smaller communities. They will be back in Yellowknife to give the boosters for the young children. I waited less than 20 minutes. 

I wish I could say the same for my poor mother in Winnipeg. She needs to get vaccinated she has a chronic health condition and is the primary care provider for my grandmother who is battling Cancer. Even though she falls into the group that is eligible to get vaccinated. There is not enough to go around, the line ups are insane. My mother is not well enough to stand in line. There is not enough vaccine in Manitoba to cover health care professionals.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/manitoba/story/2009/11/02/mb-h1n1-clinics-priority-winnipeg.html

It is shameful that people are confused and unable to get vaccinated. 

The government needs to be take responsibility for the confusion, and make it better. This is not about political parties it is about a government failing to own up to it&#039;s mistakes and fix the problem before more people get sick and die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I am lucky enough to live in a remote location, Yellowknife, NT so I got my H1N1 vaccine last week. I give credit to the NT health minster MLA Sandy Lee for running a well thought out clinic. We had a 6 day clinic in Yellowknife, they have now moved onto smaller communities. They will be back in Yellowknife to give the boosters for the young children. I waited less than 20 minutes. </p>
<p>I wish I could say the same for my poor mother in Winnipeg. She needs to get vaccinated she has a chronic health condition and is the primary care provider for my grandmother who is battling Cancer. Even though she falls into the group that is eligible to get vaccinated. There is not enough to go around, the line ups are insane. My mother is not well enough to stand in line. There is not enough vaccine in Manitoba to cover health care professionals.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cbc.ca/canada/manitoba/story/2009/11/02/mb-h1n1-clinics-priority-winnipeg.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbc.ca/canada/manitoba/story/2009/11/02/mb-h1n1-clinics-priority-winnipeg.html</a></p>
<p>It is shameful that people are confused and unable to get vaccinated. </p>
<p>The government needs to be take responsibility for the confusion, and make it better. This is not about political parties it is about a government failing to own up to it&#8217;s mistakes and fix the problem before more people get sick and die.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Francis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Canadiansense: You seem to &quot;forget&quot; that there&#039;s a shortage of vaccine in Canada due to the Conservatives ordering it late, well past when other, more competent, governments ordered it.

If H1N1 mutates, which, though unlikely, is the real problem we are trying to fight, we will have no defense against it.

We have a Government that doesn&#039;t believe in have contingency plans.

Of course, this is from &quot;Conservatives&quot; who also don&#039;t think we need a proper contingency fund in our federal budget.

No surprises. As with the Harris/Eves government in Ontario, we have leaders who rule from ideology, not competency. Remember Walkerton, anyone? The Harris Government lobotomized the oversight of rural water supplies, despite knowing none could be well managed by small municipalities, and look what we got.

The only competent thing I&#039;ve seem this government due is raid taxpayer funds at a record rate for Conservative Party private interests. I don&#039;t need $60 million in ads to tell me Conservatives are spending taxpayer money.

We can&#039;t and won&#039;t ever get good government from a bunch of hyper-partisan ideologues bent on tearing government down.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://harperbizarro.blogspot.com/2009/11/swine-flu-observations.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;HarperBizarro&lt;/a&gt; has a great post tearing the Conservatives a new one on this issue.

The Harper Government -- let&#039;s remember to keep calling it that so Harper can wear each and every boondoggle -- didn&#039;t even have the smarts to order a batch of vaccine not made from eggs so as to accommodate people with egg allergies. 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://impolitical.blogspot.com/2009/11/conservative-public-health-choices.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Impolitical&lt;/a&gt; has great references too on the lack of H1N1 preparedness by The Harper Government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Canadiansense: You seem to &#8220;forget&#8221; that there&#8217;s a shortage of vaccine in Canada due to the Conservatives ordering it late, well past when other, more competent, governments ordered it.</p>
<p>If H1N1 mutates, which, though unlikely, is the real problem we are trying to fight, we will have no defense against it.</p>
<p>We have a Government that doesn&#8217;t believe in have contingency plans.</p>
<p>Of course, this is from &#8220;Conservatives&#8221; who also don&#8217;t think we need a proper contingency fund in our federal budget.</p>
<p>No surprises. As with the Harris/Eves government in Ontario, we have leaders who rule from ideology, not competency. Remember Walkerton, anyone? The Harris Government lobotomized the oversight of rural water supplies, despite knowing none could be well managed by small municipalities, and look what we got.</p>
<p>The only competent thing I&#8217;ve seem this government due is raid taxpayer funds at a record rate for Conservative Party private interests. I don&#8217;t need $60 million in ads to tell me Conservatives are spending taxpayer money.</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t and won&#8217;t ever get good government from a bunch of hyper-partisan ideologues bent on tearing government down.</p>
<p><a href="http://harperbizarro.blogspot.com/2009/11/swine-flu-observations.html" rel="nofollow">HarperBizarro</a> has a great post tearing the Conservatives a new one on this issue.</p>
<p>The Harper Government &#8212; let&#8217;s remember to keep calling it that so Harper can wear each and every boondoggle &#8212; didn&#8217;t even have the smarts to order a batch of vaccine not made from eggs so as to accommodate people with egg allergies. </p>
<p><a href="http://impolitical.blogspot.com/2009/11/conservative-public-health-choices.html" rel="nofollow">Impolitical</a> has great references too on the lack of H1N1 preparedness by The Harper Government.</p>
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		<title>By: Canadiansense</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canadiansense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many of us believe the media and opposition are looking for ideas to boost their sagging tv ratings, opposition their polling numbers.

MSM, Tom Hudak, Michael Ignatieff are wrong for turning a serious issues into a game.

I linked on my post video clips from experts regarding the first wave of H1N1, now in the second wave we have repeated the same hysteria and hyperbole.

Where is the math, science and cooperation in reviewing this issue? This is not the Spanish Flu that killed 50 million and this like SARS will have a serious financial hit on our economy with the fear mongering. In 100 days we have an historic moment showcasing our country.


http://canadiansense.blogspot.com/2009/11/media-and-opposition-parties-need.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of us believe the media and opposition are looking for ideas to boost their sagging tv ratings, opposition their polling numbers.</p>
<p>MSM, Tom Hudak, Michael Ignatieff are wrong for turning a serious issues into a game.</p>
<p>I linked on my post video clips from experts regarding the first wave of H1N1, now in the second wave we have repeated the same hysteria and hyperbole.</p>
<p>Where is the math, science and cooperation in reviewing this issue? This is not the Spanish Flu that killed 50 million and this like SARS will have a serious financial hit on our economy with the fear mongering. In 100 days we have an historic moment showcasing our country.</p>
<p><a href="http://canadiansense.blogspot.com/2009/11/media-and-opposition-parties-need.html" rel="nofollow">http://canadiansense.blogspot.com/2009/11/media-and-opposition-parties-need.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Canadiansense</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canadiansense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott your attempt at framing this arguement violates simple rules in math, science and logic.

Partisans introduce money on EAP advertising is related to the issue. ( No link)It has no bearing to H1N1 &quot;plan&quot;.

We don&#039;t have line ups in BC why? What did AB and Ontario do differently? Did every province roll out the &quot;plan&quot; differently? Where are those line ups? Are these line up across Canada or in less than 10 cities in 2-3 provinces that decided to set up a mass immunization clinic without the proper logistics and strategic planning? Did AB not follow the recommendations only priortiy groups first? Did Ontario fail to staff their events to have only the priority lists get their number-tag?

This week those two provinces are back on the &quot;plan&quot; and have fixed their lines? Why can&#039;t the NEWS find the line ups this week?

Partisans argue &quot;supply and shortage&quot; Reality check math does not add up.

How did 6 million samples get used up in 8 days, most estimates think no more than 2.5 million Canadians will be administered by end of this week.(15 days)

The booster shot is being recommended by Canadian Health Experts. The Americans overestimaed their supply without the booster and will be far behind in vaccinating their own population. 

Are we comparing the US to Canada in the amount of days or the % of vaccines available to it citizens. (How many days, list the countries ahead of us and the number of days)Not a big difference perhaps so leave out the details?

6 million doses with booster for 33 million vs 26 million no booster for 280 million, need a calculator who is better off? Seasonal flu kills thousands of 65+ annually in Canada and the decision to make that available was correct. So far we don&#039;t have a spike in seasonal flu deaths of this group and they are NOT in the high risk group for H1N1.

So is the 6 million doses in the hands provinces, local health officials being delivered, who is responsible for sticking the needle in your arm?

How large is the high priority group, is their enough for them and will it take 3 weeks 15 days to give them the shot? If people who are not on that list show up and don&#039;t get turned away who is responsible? Did AB, ON change their minds this week? 

Look at other provinces BC, MB, SK, QC, NB, NL, NS are they following the AB,ON model?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott your attempt at framing this arguement violates simple rules in math, science and logic.</p>
<p>Partisans introduce money on EAP advertising is related to the issue. ( No link)It has no bearing to H1N1 &#8220;plan&#8221;.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t have line ups in BC why? What did AB and Ontario do differently? Did every province roll out the &#8220;plan&#8221; differently? Where are those line ups? Are these line up across Canada or in less than 10 cities in 2-3 provinces that decided to set up a mass immunization clinic without the proper logistics and strategic planning? Did AB not follow the recommendations only priortiy groups first? Did Ontario fail to staff their events to have only the priority lists get their number-tag?</p>
<p>This week those two provinces are back on the &#8220;plan&#8221; and have fixed their lines? Why can&#8217;t the NEWS find the line ups this week?</p>
<p>Partisans argue &#8220;supply and shortage&#8221; Reality check math does not add up.</p>
<p>How did 6 million samples get used up in 8 days, most estimates think no more than 2.5 million Canadians will be administered by end of this week.(15 days)</p>
<p>The booster shot is being recommended by Canadian Health Experts. The Americans overestimaed their supply without the booster and will be far behind in vaccinating their own population. </p>
<p>Are we comparing the US to Canada in the amount of days or the % of vaccines available to it citizens. (How many days, list the countries ahead of us and the number of days)Not a big difference perhaps so leave out the details?</p>
<p>6 million doses with booster for 33 million vs 26 million no booster for 280 million, need a calculator who is better off? Seasonal flu kills thousands of 65+ annually in Canada and the decision to make that available was correct. So far we don&#8217;t have a spike in seasonal flu deaths of this group and they are NOT in the high risk group for H1N1.</p>
<p>So is the 6 million doses in the hands provinces, local health officials being delivered, who is responsible for sticking the needle in your arm?</p>
<p>How large is the high priority group, is their enough for them and will it take 3 weeks 15 days to give them the shot? If people who are not on that list show up and don&#8217;t get turned away who is responsible? Did AB, ON change their minds this week? </p>
<p>Look at other provinces BC, MB, SK, QC, NB, NL, NS are they following the AB,ON model?</p>
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