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		<title>By: shashi</title>
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		<dc:creator>shashi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gayle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gayle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-21088&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Andrew&lt;/a&gt;, See, that is what I love about you gun types. When the going gets tough, you just make things up, and then preemptively call anyone who disagrees with you &quot;delusional&quot;.

First, unless you can demonstrate that drug dealers and other gang members purchase their guns illegally 100% of the time, you can forget your little argument here. 

Second, you seem to have missed the point that an unregistered firearm found in the possession of a drug dealer allows the police to lay a criminal charge. In other words, I don&#039;t think they always register their guns. Again, I thought you guys were all about charging and putting people in jail for a long time? Don&#039;t you think someone is going to do a longer sentence if their firearm was both purchased without a licence AND is unregistered?

Mostly, though, I cannot help but notice how so many of you simply ignore the fact this registry was used to solve one of the most heinous crimes our country has seen in years. Why is that? Facts a little too inconvenient for you? Why are you people so  selfish?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-21088" rel="nofollow">@Andrew</a>, See, that is what I love about you gun types. When the going gets tough, you just make things up, and then preemptively call anyone who disagrees with you &#8220;delusional&#8221;.</p>
<p>First, unless you can demonstrate that drug dealers and other gang members purchase their guns illegally 100% of the time, you can forget your little argument here. </p>
<p>Second, you seem to have missed the point that an unregistered firearm found in the possession of a drug dealer allows the police to lay a criminal charge. In other words, I don&#8217;t think they always register their guns. Again, I thought you guys were all about charging and putting people in jail for a long time? Don&#8217;t you think someone is going to do a longer sentence if their firearm was both purchased without a licence AND is unregistered?</p>
<p>Mostly, though, I cannot help but notice how so many of you simply ignore the fact this registry was used to solve one of the most heinous crimes our country has seen in years. Why is that? Facts a little too inconvenient for you? Why are you people so  selfish?</p>
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		<title>By: Gayle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gayle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-21087&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@lance&lt;/a&gt;, Really don&#039;t know what point you are trying to make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-21087" rel="nofollow">@lance</a>, Really don&#8217;t know what point you are trying to make.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that some of you out there (namely Gayle) don&#039;t quite understand how it used to work and will once again work if the registry is scrapped. 
  **You still have to have a valid Firearms PAL License to obtain and possess Firearms**
 
   Gayle said     &quot;Let me that another way – police raid a suspected drug house, find some gang members there with a couple of unregistered firearms, and nothing else.
Until recently, they could arrest and detain those gang members for this. Wilson would have us set them free with a ticket.
Those conservatives – always thinking about our safety.
So Scott, I totally agree with you and Travers.&quot;

What would be more effective in these situations is having very severe punishment for possessing any firearm without a license unless of course you think that these &quot;gang members&quot; at this &quot;drug house&quot; are registering all of their legally purchased guns. If that&#039;s the case then you truly are delusional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that some of you out there (namely Gayle) don&#8217;t quite understand how it used to work and will once again work if the registry is scrapped.<br />
  **You still have to have a valid Firearms PAL License to obtain and possess Firearms**</p>
<p>   Gayle said     &#8220;Let me that another way – police raid a suspected drug house, find some gang members there with a couple of unregistered firearms, and nothing else.<br />
Until recently, they could arrest and detain those gang members for this. Wilson would have us set them free with a ticket.<br />
Those conservatives – always thinking about our safety.<br />
So Scott, I totally agree with you and Travers.&#8221;</p>
<p>What would be more effective in these situations is having very severe punishment for possessing any firearm without a license unless of course you think that these &#8220;gang members&#8221; at this &#8220;drug house&#8221; are registering all of their legally purchased guns. If that&#8217;s the case then you truly are delusional.</p>
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		<title>By: lance</title>
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		<dc:creator>lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-21082&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Gayle&lt;/a&gt;, and so is drug possession. Lock up all the stoners!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-21082" rel="nofollow">@Gayle</a>, and so is drug possession. Lock up all the stoners!</p>
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		<title>By: Gayle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gayle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-21085&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Jim&lt;/a&gt;, Is there something about my post you do not understand?

Here is your problem - if in your example you really forgot, then you will not be convicted, since intent is an essential element of any criminal offence.

Otherwise it is just an excuse, and as such is not a defence. If you are legally required to do something, then you have to do it. In other words, when you say you have not &quot;done anything wrong&quot;, in fact, you have. Yes, you have not been convicted, but then they take people&#039;s drivers licences away just because they are charged too.

Not that you have to worry - according to you the rank and file police do not support the registry. Therefore it is highly unlikely they would actually charge you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-21085" rel="nofollow">@Jim</a>, Is there something about my post you do not understand?</p>
<p>Here is your problem &#8211; if in your example you really forgot, then you will not be convicted, since intent is an essential element of any criminal offence.</p>
<p>Otherwise it is just an excuse, and as such is not a defence. If you are legally required to do something, then you have to do it. In other words, when you say you have not &#8220;done anything wrong&#8221;, in fact, you have. Yes, you have not been convicted, but then they take people&#8217;s drivers licences away just because they are charged too.</p>
<p>Not that you have to worry &#8211; according to you the rank and file police do not support the registry. Therefore it is highly unlikely they would actually charge you.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Gayle...just wow.

Seek help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Gayle&#8230;just wow.</p>
<p>Seek help.</p>
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		<title>By: Gayle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gayle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-21079&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Jim&lt;/a&gt;, Suppose I forget that I drank an entire bottle of vodka, and get behind the wheel of my car and drove it. Would it be fair for the police to arrest me? Is it fair I lose my right to drive a car for at least a year? Just because I forgot?

You do something illegal when you fail to place trigger locks on your pistols. &quot;I forgot&quot; is not a defence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-21079" rel="nofollow">@Jim</a>, Suppose I forget that I drank an entire bottle of vodka, and get behind the wheel of my car and drove it. Would it be fair for the police to arrest me? Is it fair I lose my right to drive a car for at least a year? Just because I forgot?</p>
<p>You do something illegal when you fail to place trigger locks on your pistols. &#8220;I forgot&#8221; is not a defence.</p>
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		<title>By: Gayle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gayle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-21069&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Gayle&lt;/a&gt;, Funny - that is what I say about the minimum sentences, restricted parole etc. All of which take money away from policing and investigating crime.

I assume you will be out there advocating against those measure too wilson?

Next time try not to duck the issue. The registry is used as an investigatory tool. That assists the police in charging and convicting criminals. That is supposed to be what Harper wants, right? But I guess no one cares about the urban dwellers because it is just too much to ask farmers to fill out a form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-21069" rel="nofollow">@Gayle</a>, Funny &#8211; that is what I say about the minimum sentences, restricted parole etc. All of which take money away from policing and investigating crime.</p>
<p>I assume you will be out there advocating against those measure too wilson?</p>
<p>Next time try not to duck the issue. The registry is used as an investigatory tool. That assists the police in charging and convicting criminals. That is supposed to be what Harper wants, right? But I guess no one cares about the urban dwellers because it is just too much to ask farmers to fill out a form.</p>
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		<title>By: Gayle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gayle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-21071&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@jimmyjim&lt;/a&gt;, No, I mean the fact that there was a gun found to have been in Rosko&#039;s possession when he died that was registered to the grandfather of one of the two men who assisted Rosko. That gun was given to Rosko by that man the night Rosko went out and killed four Mounties. That gun later led the RCMP to that man.

Yes - BIG help.

Counterpoint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-21071" rel="nofollow">@jimmyjim</a>, No, I mean the fact that there was a gun found to have been in Rosko&#8217;s possession when he died that was registered to the grandfather of one of the two men who assisted Rosko. That gun was given to Rosko by that man the night Rosko went out and killed four Mounties. That gun later led the RCMP to that man.</p>
<p>Yes &#8211; BIG help.</p>
<p>Counterpoint.</p>
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