Comments on: It’s time to start asking for Peter MacKay’s resignation. http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/2009/12/07/its-time-to-start-asking-for-peter-mackays-resignation/ My personal opinions on social and political issues from a progressive standpoint. Thu, 29 Jul 2010 05:27:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: eric http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/2009/12/07/its-time-to-start-asking-for-peter-mackays-resignation/comment-page-1/#comment-21692 eric Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:48:31 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/?p=7011#comment-21692 Sign up! http://www.gopetition.co.uk/petitions/resignation-of-defence-minister-peter-mackay.html Sign up!

http://www.gopetition.co.uk/petitions/resignation-of-defence-minister-peter-mackay.html

]]> By: Ottlib http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/2009/12/07/its-time-to-start-asking-for-peter-mackays-resignation/comment-page-1/#comment-21558 Ottlib Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:06:12 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/?p=7011#comment-21558 And yet the torture and murder of that young lad in Somalia was thoroughly investigated and those responsible were sent to prison. Indeed, I believe that the soldier at the centre of that event is still enjoying the hospitality of the military prison in Edmonton. That whole affair caused great embarrassment to the Chretien government but they still did the right thing. The Harperites have no excuses and it is scandalous that an international court may be needed to get to the bottom of this whole sorry business. Where the Hell do we live anyway? Zimbabwe? And yet the torture and murder of that young lad in Somalia was thoroughly investigated and those responsible were sent to prison.

Indeed, I believe that the soldier at the centre of that event is still enjoying the hospitality of the military prison in Edmonton.

That whole affair caused great embarrassment to the Chretien government but they still did the right thing.

The Harperites have no excuses and it is scandalous that an international court may be needed to get to the bottom of this whole sorry business.

Where the Hell do we live anyway? Zimbabwe?

]]> By: Emily Dee http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/2009/12/07/its-time-to-start-asking-for-peter-mackays-resignation/comment-page-1/#comment-21543 Emily Dee Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:24:22 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/?p=7011#comment-21543 If the Wall Street journal is correct there may already be an international investigation into war crimes against Canada. Apparently Hillier and O'Connor are named but others could be added. MacKay almost definitely, but Harper a possibility, since memos went to the PMO and we know that Harper controls everything. If the Wall Street journal is correct there may already be an international investigation into war crimes against Canada. Apparently Hillier and O’Connor are named but others could be added. MacKay almost definitely, but Harper a possibility, since memos went to the PMO and we know that Harper controls everything.

]]> By: Frank http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/2009/12/07/its-time-to-start-asking-for-peter-mackays-resignation/comment-page-1/#comment-21542 Frank Tue, 08 Dec 2009 05:21:41 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/?p=7011#comment-21542 "It's time to start asking for Peter MacKay's resignation." That's funny! :) “It’s time to start asking for Peter MacKay’s resignation.”

That’s funny! :)

]]> By: Dana http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/2009/12/07/its-time-to-start-asking-for-peter-mackays-resignation/comment-page-1/#comment-21541 Dana Tue, 08 Dec 2009 05:12:39 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/?p=7011#comment-21541 There will be no Canadian initiated inquiry and there will be no resignations. Get used to it. The last time a federal government in Canada initiated an inquiry into its own actions, what happened? You think Harper didn't absorb that lesson? You think any government ever again is going to call an inquiry into its own actions? The other reason there won't be one is that no western government is going to own up to anything relevant to the torture of anyone at all anywhere. Maybe here and there a few "bad apples" will be singled out, but that'll be the extent of it. Admitting, or for that matter even hinting, that there were government or high command instructions involved would be tantamount to admitting that the moral high horse we always like to ride in on is made of straw and is already on fire. You think there's a western government with the moral courage to admit that? I got a bridge made of icing sugar you might like. There will be no Canadian initiated inquiry and there will be no resignations.

Get used to it.

The last time a federal government in Canada initiated an inquiry into its own actions, what happened?

You think Harper didn’t absorb that lesson? You think any government ever again is going to call an inquiry into its own actions?

The other reason there won’t be one is that no western government is going to own up to anything relevant to the torture of anyone at all anywhere. Maybe here and there a few “bad apples” will be singled out, but that’ll be the extent of it.

Admitting, or for that matter even hinting, that there were government or high command instructions involved would be tantamount to admitting that the moral high horse we always like to ride in on is made of straw and is already on fire.

You think there’s a western government with the moral courage to admit that?

I got a bridge made of icing sugar you might like.

]]> By: Big Winnie http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/2009/12/07/its-time-to-start-asking-for-peter-mackays-resignation/comment-page-1/#comment-21540 Big Winnie Tue, 08 Dec 2009 01:56:04 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/?p=7011#comment-21540 The military has performed very well in Afghanistan and they should/are applauded for their efforts! However, since the government (read PMO) created the policy and the military has to follow orders, the government, namely Harper, MacKay and others bear the responsibility for the failure of the government to protect Afghan civilians and others from torture. I, too, welcome an inquiry and if the government doesn't have one, then let the ICC have one and let the cards fall where they may. The military has performed very well in Afghanistan and they should/are applauded for their efforts! However, since the government (read PMO) created the policy and the military has to follow orders, the government, namely Harper, MacKay and others bear the responsibility for the failure of the government to protect Afghan civilians and others from torture.

I, too, welcome an inquiry and if the government doesn’t have one, then let the ICC have one and let the cards fall where they may.

]]> By: Bull Caller http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/2009/12/07/its-time-to-start-asking-for-peter-mackays-resignation/comment-page-1/#comment-21538 Bull Caller Mon, 07 Dec 2009 21:04:23 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/?p=7011#comment-21538 <a href="#comment-21536" rel="nofollow">@JimBobby</a>, yep, so long as whatever happens it doesn't stick to Steve, all is well in reform country. @JimBobby, yep, so long as whatever happens it doesn’t stick to Steve, all is well in reform country.

]]> By: Roll Tide http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/2009/12/07/its-time-to-start-asking-for-peter-mackays-resignation/comment-page-1/#comment-21537 Roll Tide Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:44:47 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/?p=7011#comment-21537 Art Eggleton resigned as well. You never have and never will have a war where the bad guys don't get roughed up a bit. Speaking of abuse, I even recall a former Prime Minister choking a protester in Hull Quebec. Not a RCMP, or a member of the Canadian Security force, the PRIME MINISTER HIMSELF! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvjfJ6bAi0U and he wasn't even a member of the Taliban. Art Eggleton resigned as well.

You never have and never will have a war where the bad guys don’t get roughed up a bit.

Speaking of abuse, I even recall a former Prime Minister choking a protester in Hull Quebec. Not a RCMP, or a member of the Canadian Security force, the PRIME MINISTER HIMSELF!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvjfJ6bAi0U

and he wasn’t even a member of the Taliban.

]]> By: JimBobby http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/2009/12/07/its-time-to-start-asking-for-peter-mackays-resignation/comment-page-1/#comment-21536 JimBobby Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:07:16 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/?p=7011#comment-21536 <a href="#comment-21535" rel="nofollow">@Bull Caller</a>, O'Connor was forced to resign his cabinet position due to the detainee issue. The old goat's still sitting as a Con MP. Bernier? Still a Con MP. Even when they are caught, there's nothing but a wrist-slapping from this oh-so-accountable gummint. @Bull Caller, O’Connor was forced to resign his cabinet position due to the detainee issue. The old goat’s still sitting as a Con MP. Bernier? Still a Con MP. Even when they are caught, there’s nothing but a wrist-slapping from this oh-so-accountable gummint.

]]> By: Bull Caller http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/2009/12/07/its-time-to-start-asking-for-peter-mackays-resignation/comment-page-1/#comment-21535 Bull Caller Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:31:49 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/?p=7011#comment-21535 Hell David Orchard knew that almost 6 years ago. The guy, and his daddy "Elmer" are both crooks and liars. Not to worry, since Harper was unable to throw the diplomat under the bus, MacKay is the next to get the shove in order keep it from sticking to the big cheese. With MacKay sacked, Harper will attempt to say he's dealt with it and its a non-issue...and attempt to bury it (we hope unsucessfully, if the MSM doesn't go back to sleep). Hell David Orchard knew that almost 6 years ago. The guy, and his daddy “Elmer” are both crooks and liars. Not to worry, since Harper was unable to throw the diplomat under the bus, MacKay is the next to get the shove in order keep it from sticking to the big cheese.

With MacKay sacked, Harper will attempt to say he’s dealt with it and its a non-issue…and attempt to bury it (we hope unsucessfully, if the MSM doesn’t go back to sleep).

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