Yes, Scott, it is only one poll, however, teh Harpercon media will only use the one poll favourable to their master to serve up their Kool-aid to Apathetic Canadians. That’s why, I worry. That favorable poll to harper will always be the one to come up loudest and the one that sticks with folks most. Especially, since it’s that biased neo-con Brian Lilley who can’t even report the news without gushing St-Stevie all over the Astral Talk network.

Look at my comment below where GW Bush won his second term just by keeping Americans scared and that he and only he can protect American citizens against the evul Muslims.

I, unfortunately can see how Harper can actually win by taking a page out of the Georgie playbook.

What Marie said is correct.

It’s nice to know what little respect for human rights and international law you have.

Is that the rack conservatives want to hang their hat on?

Shame

I happen to agree that Canadians would not care if it was revealed that mistakes were made that resulted in detainees being released to torture. Further if the government were to provide evidence that they took steps to fix the problem Canadians would give a collective shrug.

However, if it becomes evident that the Canadian government was knowingly handing over detainees to be tortured all things change. Canadians can forgive mistakes, but I do not think that they can forgive intentional complicity in torture.

Canadians do care about Canada’s international reputation and they know such allegations would sully that.

Certainly, the Opposition Parties should be talking about tranparency and accountability of the government but if evidence that these allegations of complicity in torture begins to surface they should also be talking about that.

If that isn’t enough for the Opps,
PMSH will make any motion on the issue a confidence vote,
and Libs can decide if they want to bring down the government over Afghan detainees being abused by Afghans (‘cuz that is all yah got)

He calls an election, he controls the agenda. He already controls most media outfits. when he is in control, he usually comes out the winner.

I noticed more and more Canadians are longing for Bush era Americana which would be what we get if a Harpercon majority, complete with Christian Fundamental Evangelism.

All Harper has to do is take out a page from the Bush play book: keep Canadians scared and that only Uncle STevie knows how to protect us; he knows what’s best. It isn’t in National security to release documents, yadda yadda yadda. You get the idea.

You should, it was GW Bush’s campaign that got him elected to a second term in office; by keeping McCarthyism alive and kicking; make Americans fear that they’re may be communist socialist Muslim under the bed if he’s not there to keep America safe. They bought it.

I’m concerned about this happening in CAnada.

What hypocrisy! They all whine about the nanny state, but while they’re fixated on that, they call Uncle Neo-con to keep them safe; that they would sacrifice basic necessities like democracy and even their freedom and yes, even blindly trust their leader in order to stay safe in their minds from the Muslim boogie man in their closets.

Yes, there are many who do think that not only torture is a necessity of war, but also “It’s fun to torture little brown people” as some bigoted shock jockettes like to put it.

We would be diluding ourselves to not be concerned about exactly how much of the Canadian population thinks the way I mentioned above?

However, something that keeps failing to be mentioned and waved around like a banner: the Geneva Conventions, which unlike that Copenhagen thingey, this is binding and legally valid. It states that prisoners of war; detainees must be guaranteed to have their health maintained: like, no physical harm, their nutritional needs must be looked after: enough food and water, medical treatment if required they must be kept healthy.

Nobody guaranteed that we would actually like our detainees; if that were the case, laws wouldn’t have needed to be in place and enforceable.

What we should do is not only keep pointing at the elephant in the room, but point out that if we want a law & order society, it starts with a responsible gov’t leading by example. That Canada, like any nation, must uphold laws.

What’s more,it’s important to not hound torture per se, but, rather hammer the importance of accountability, transparency, etc.

It’s not about torture anyway and a campaign of any kind won’t work if you make it about torture. Sad truth is, many, if not most, Canadians are bigoted toward Muslims and thus have no sympathy for them whatsoever.

That said, I was for an election this spring, but I was hoping at the time, the liberals would actually not listen to their leader and show up in droves to vote against that budget. Stevie doesn’t do well when he isn’t in control of the agenda.

Now, if Stevie is controlling the agenda, I’m not so sure…

No, if we were smart, we would make it about integrity, transparency, accountablitity and maintaining law and order.

Perhaps we ought to find a way to write to GG and tell her to say no this time around. After all, she’s done More than enough favors for the megalomaniac already, especially if the rumour is true that Stevie plans to send her packing.