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Compare & contrast the Conservative ads to the newly released Liberal ads

The Liberal Party has responded to the Conservative attack ads with a couple of ads of their own (and yes, these are TV ads as well). Can you spot the difference between the Liberals ads and the Conservatives? As I said, compare and contrast – first, the ad on corporate tax cuts:

And now, the one on the F-35 fighter jets:

THe difference? The Conservative ads are personal – attacking people, or in one instance trying to glorify Stephen Harper as a tough leader who alone makes the decisions in Ottawa. The Liberal ads on the other hand attack Conservative policies, and the problems that go with them. Both ads are short, sweet succinct, and to the point . I’m pleased to see the Liberals respond in kind. It is nice to occasionally counter attacks (and counter-attack) all this smear stuff with attacks of our own, and ones that go after the political, not the personal.

28 comments to Compare & contrast the Conservative ads to the newly released Liberal ads

  • Earl G.

    Riiiiiight, ads that picture Harper in three different poses and end with his name aren’t personal at all. Not at all.

  • Roll tide

    Regarding the F-35 ad, I take it that Liberal Senator Romeo Dallaire was passed by in the input department. He knows more on the subject then the whole Liberal caucus put together.
    The Corporate tax cut ad in confusing because the Liberals voted in favour of them.
    They are running against something they voted for.
    The ads really belong with the NDP.

    • Redrum

      @Roll tide, “Romeo Dallaire …knows more on the subject then the whole Liberal caucus” — why? Because he was a General… in the Army, until the end of 1999?

      With all due respect, that doesn’t make him an expert on this matter; either on:

      – what’s involved in and can and should be achieved by the military procurement process for major aircraft purchases (which the former ADM in charge of that, Alan Williams, has briefed anyone that cares to hear, on); or

      – on the current needs of the Air Force — particularly since no ‘White Paper’ review or formal ‘Statement of Requirement’ on what specifations we really need of a fighter jet has been done in Canada for, what, decades, now; or,

      – on whether the F-35 really is going to be a good, reliable, affordable plane to meet those requirements, even if we decided we do want a compromise combination too-small-for-much-of-a-bomber & too-boxy-&-slow-&-low-range-to-be-much-of-a-fighter or interceptor: it’s barely had any test flights, yet; it’s had a slew of problems (including having one alternate line of its engines (by Rolls-Royce, yet) get cancelled); and it’s got so many lines of code in its Tron-like tricked out interface, that it’s bound to be in the shop or seize up more often than not.

      He’s probably just believing the manufacturers’ own press on it, like the gung-ho Cons. are.

  • marie

    Wilson, How about we start bringing up Harper’s quotes right back to his days of being the leader of the Canadian Alliance party of Canada that goes back to 2003. There are a lot of quotes there that might give your brain a shake and they can also could be used in retaliations for Harper’s dirty ads campaign. Fire with same fire but being so narrow minded wouldn’t put a dent in your clueless scull. As a matter of fact, I will get to work on some of those said quotes and feed the ammunition back to you.

    Be back shortly clueless.

  • Jim

    “We will accelerate and deepen the currently planned corporate tax cuts, reducing the general corporate tax rate by an additional one per cent within four years. That means the federal corporate tax rate in Canada will be only 14 per cent by the 2012.” – Liberal press release, June 19, 2008

  • wilson

    ”Both ads are short, sweet succinct, and to the point” … points that has been made hundreds of times by journalists.

    BTW, as PMSH said to Mansbridge, the F35 spending doesn’t start for 5 years and it is spread over the 40 years life time of the aircraft.
    And the repealing of the corp tax legislation was the Dippers #1 campaign pledge, in 2008.
    So one can conclude that Liberals reversing their position on corp tax cuts means this is a LibDip coalition ad.

    • Redrum

      @wilson, what, like those 40 year mortgages Flaherty himself has had to ban because he knows they enabled weak-willed, imprudent people to make unaffordable purchases that make them vulnerable to bankruptcy?

      And, sure, “one” can always conclude something conspiratorial by juxtaposing two events… if “one” is a “truther.”

      • wilson

        Repealing of the corp tax legislation was the Dippers #1 campaign pledge, in 2008.

        That was when the LPC refered to the legislation they made a committment to, as ‘helping small businesses’.
        It’s there for all to see in the LPC 2008 campaign ads on youtube.

        Today, the LPC regurgitate NDP talking points from 2008, big banks and big oil.
        You don’t have to be a truther to make that coalition connection.

        • Redrum

          @wilson, yes, it’s so much more compelling & devastating a response when you repeat it the second time.

        • wilson

          It appears the NDP are responding too, by posting the LPC 2008 campaign pledge to INCREASE corp tax cuts to 14%

          “We will accelerate and deepen the currently planned corporate tax cuts, reducing the general corporate tax rate by an additional one per cent within four years. That means the federal corporate tax rate in Canada will be only 14 per cent by the 2012.” – Liberal press release, June 19, 2008

          Read more: http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/01/21/john-ivison-liberals-position-themselves-to-left-of-ndp/#ixzz1BhNRKWdc

        • Redrum

          @wilson, uh-huh. So as that Ivison article you cite points out, the NDP are seizing on this to do their best to portray the Libs as being insincere on wanting to oppose these corporate tax cuts, now.

          So doesn’t that put the lie to your claim that they’re in cahoots?

          So are you too dumb or too dishonest to notice and acknowledge that, or both?

    • TofKW

      @wilson, you can accrue any amount you want over any timeframe. In the end it is still $16 billion (more like $21 billion as per the Auditor General’s report about the military intentionally low-balling their numbers) that we will be paying to Lockheed-Martin, and they don’t except 40-year payment terms.

      Also, no airplane can last 40 years in active service. Our CF-18 Hornets that require replacing soon are nowhere near that old.

      Seriously, your arguments suck wilson. Go back to the PMO’s office for better talking points.

      • ridenrain

        Far better the Liberals run on cancelling the F35 program. That was very popular with Canadians. Could the Iggy get his US-buddy, Bush to come up and talk about American exceptionalism too?

        • Redrum

          @ridenrain, hmm, considering that Ignatieff merely EDITED a book on the topic (http + ://press.princeton.edu/TOCs/c8080.html )

          …hardly means that he endorses the position that America is qualitatively different from other nations (though, of course, it is in some ways: Hollywood; Fox News; ‘The Ugly American’…)

          But the Libs’ position on wanting to take a good, long, hard look at whether these are the right planes for CANADA right now is actually a good case of distancing itself from doing something as foolish as blowing probably an extra $10-B on unproven, buggy STEALTH BOMBERS (when all we really need to do is replace our fighter jets with similar, updated models 10 years from now), just to suck up to the Americans and subsidize their defense industry…

          unlike Harper, who’s got such a man-crush on the US that he blew $1-B just to pose on the world stage with Obama, and he wants to hand our security policy & all our travellers’ and potential visitors & immigrants’ private data over to them in a ‘perimeter agreement.’

        • Redrum

          @ridenrain, oh yeah, and the Minister’s Grin & Bear It reaction on this latest softwood debacle reminds me of the BILLION dollars in foregone fines that Harper rolled over & showed his belly on to suck up to HIS hero, Bush, back in 2006.

          www + .theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/lumber-deal-still-a-good-one-despite-new-arbitration-loss-ottawa-says/article1878820/

  • TofKW

    That was never a real ad and never released. Though clearly your lobotomy would prevent you from remembering such things.

    Say why don’t the Reformatories respond with more personal attack adds. Or better yet, ads that feature bullet holes around your opponent’s heads!

    • wilson

      That reminds me of the Lib ad with the disintegrating Canadian flag, and a pistol pointed into the eye of the camera.

      • Jon Pertwee

        @wilson, yeah and the Where’s the Beef ad from Wendy’s in the 80s reminds me of the quality of your responses.

  • ridenrain

    No “soldiers with guns, in our streets”? I’m disapointed.

    • Redrum

      @ridenrain, oh, no need, at this point: the events of the G20 Toronto occupation are still fresh in people’s minds. Tho’ I suspect some indepedents will be splicing some ads together with some ‘greatest hits’ from it, with real voiceovers like, “This ain’t Canada right now.”

      www + .thestar.com/news/torontog20summit/article/925742–g20-officer-this-ain-t-canada-right-now?bn=1

      • wilson

        ”the events of the G20 Toronto occupation are still fresh in people’s minds”

        Because every Canadian taxpayer from coast to coast to coast, will vote according to ‘what’s happening in Toronto’.
        ps. Rob Ford won that election.

        • Redrum

          @wilson, no, just the ones concerned about democracy, freedom, and Canada’s place in the world. And guess what: in a democracy like Canada’s, voting’s for all citizens over the age of 18 — not just for “taxpayers” (or just for indoctrinated “donors,” as the CPC would have it).

  • Goran

    Much too abrupt and cartoonish. Looks cheap as hell.

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