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All options should be discussed at least – not thrown away arbritarily.

I see that we have some stories in the media about “merger talk growing” between the Liberals and NDP again after the funeral of Mr. Layton. We even had a couple of Liberal MP’s come out (Justin Trudeau notably) saying that while he wasn’t convinced it was the way to go, he was willing to listen or be convinced otherwise. There was then others such as Mr Rae flatly rejecting it.

Some say this is just media driven, and perhaps it is. Personally though, when you’re a party that has been losing votes over the last three elections, and losing seats, including your worst showing ever in the most previous election sending you to third party status, I think you shouldn’t necessarily automatically discard options without at least having a good discussion/debate about them.

In fact, why not find out what the entire Liberal membership thinks, rather then the Liberal leaders or MP’s arbitrarily deciding one way or the other? Ask them (and I mean the entire Liberal Party membership, not just delegates in a delegation system that I feel can be gamed very easily) whether or not it’s an idea worth discussing or not? If they think it isn’t, then the talk dies off rather quickly. If it is, then at least it would provide direction.

To be clear, I’m not “pro-merger”. I’m not sold on it one way or the other as of yet. I am willing however, like Justin Trudeau to at least want to study the idea and whether it can be viable or not, and whether the party wants to extend a formal proposal to the NDP if they want to talk about it. I just think it would be nice for once in this party if all the members of this party were asked if they want to or not.

By the way, if there are other ways to renew or re-energize the Liberal Party brand, I’m all ears. As I said, I’m open-minded on ideas. I’ve just not heard too many of those other proposals yet.

4 comments to All options should be discussed at least – not thrown away arbritarily.

  • Observer

    All this merger talk is just like all that Liberal party leader talk which is just like all that Liberal party “quebec lieutenant” talk which is just like the most recent Bob Rae “we’ll win back the government talk”.

    It’s talk about handicapping which means the topic is the horse race.

    But it isn’t talk about anything useful to a non-Liberal or as to why voters in general should vote Liberal. It’s a meta conversation, a soap opera conversation. It’s not a real one that addresses issues Canadians care about.

    And it sucks up energy and time away from the things needed to actually convince voters. Hard to believe the NDP would want to be brought into the Liberal world of vote losing months long public media conversations about nothing.

    I continue to hope for the best but expect the worst out of the Liberal party.

  • Who cares what the Liberals think about a merger? I really don’t think anyone much in the NDP is interested. If they weren’t about to fold into the Libs back when they were getting 14 seats and a pittance of popular vote, why would they throw in the towel now?

    • Well, at least 1 NDP MP disagrees with you – Mr. Pat Martin.

      As for the NDP – you’re right; if the Liberals were to offer to hold merger talks and the NDP rejected it, that would be that. We’re a long ways away though from asking -it may not even formally happen. It would be an interesting scenario though, if it was the NDP new leader offering the merger talks first.

  • ck

    Once upon a time, before May 2, I thought merger was a terrible idea. However, now, after May 2, I am more open to it. In short, necessity is the mother of invention. The two parties would do well to at least, stop treating each other as the enemy and realize what most of us already know: my enemy’s enemy is my friend.

    This whole Liberal Party’s refrain of centrist values and compromise isn’t resonating with Canadians and they seem to like a polarized country just fine. This promotion of moderation and centrist values only appears to give the Liberals the slogan of ‘stand for nothing’. The Liberals before Chretien/ Martin, in the days of Trudeau and Pearson were actually more left leaning back in those days and it’s perhaps best to back that way. As for the NDP, they’re going to have to somewhat go more moderate and detach themselves from Quebec nationalists.

    There is also the math involved. Many conservative seats were won in Ontario due to NDP and Liberal vote splitting.

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