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		<title>So Mr. Taylor and I agree on the census thing&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/2010/07/27/so-mr-taylor-and-i-agree-on-the-census-thing/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scott Tribe</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Stephen Taylor decided to publish thoughts on the Census controversy yesterday. Of course, he is cheering that move on, all for it. What may surprise you is that we agree on at least one point &#8211; the government&#8217;s motives behind this move. I and others have suspected that this move to kill the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Stephen Taylor decided to publish thoughts on the Census controversy yesterday. Of course, he is cheering that move on, all for it. What may surprise you is that we agree on at least one point &#8211; the government&#8217;s motives behind this move. I and others have suspected that this move to kill the mandatory longform census is less to do with privacy concerns, and more to do with trying to prevent governments from having reliable data &#8211; to see certain social problems or inequalities for instance &#8211;  because it will be harder to target them with programs, or revamp initial ones. Stephen doesn&#8217;t exactly say he suspects the same thing as to the Conservative government&#8217;s motives, but he believes this is what will happen as a result of this move. He of course wants that to happen. I don&#8217;t. </p>
<p>I also of course have stated I think there is a 2nd reason for this move &#8211; to prevent inconvenient facts/stats from interrupting Conservative rhetoric and ideology over the policies they wish to implement (see tough on crime policies),  but if Stephen comes out and says that openly, I&#8217;ll be shocked. </p>
<p>That said, I do join my colleague <a href="http://mrsinistergreg.blogspot.com/2010/07/thanks-stephen-taylor.html">Greg</a> in congratulating him for at least being honest about his reasons for supporting this move:</p>
<blockquote><p>If only the elected members of your party were as honest about their goals, we could have a cracking election about this. Somehow though, I doubt your party will be running on a platform of &#8220;Vote for us and we will get rid of CPP&#8221;; or &#8220;Vote for us and maternity leave will be a thing of the past&#8221;, any time soon. But now we know that&#8217;s the direction it wants to take Canada. Thanks again for the head&#8217;s up.</p></blockquote>
<p>With most of the organizations/editorials/op-ed&#8217;s coming out against this move or shaking their head at what caused the government to stumble into a crisis of their own making &#8211; even from the normally Conservative friendly editorial board at the Post, and a couple of prominent columnists of theirs &#8211; I&#8217;m not surprised Stephen galloped to the rescue. </p>
<p>However, as Adam Radwanski <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/radwanski/three-cheers-for-a-hidden-agenda/article1652329/">mused</a>, you have to wonder if this was Stephen freelancing, or if his friends/sources in the CPC have given him their real impressions/thoughts of why the government apparently is determined to go through with this boneheaded decision, and he&#8217;s articulating them.</p>
<p>Whatever it was, it will make for good material to go after the CPC and their supporters on.</p>
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		<title>More G8/G20 waste: Over a million $ for the posters you&#8217;ll see.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scott Tribe</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Greg Weston of Sunmedia has really been on a roll cataloguing all the wasteful spending that&#8217;s going on at this G8/G20 summit. His latest reveal: the posters you&#8217;ll see in the backdrop of all the photo-op shots cost over a million of your taxpayers bucks:</p> <p>The latest bit of fiscal fun at public expense [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg Weston of Sunmedia has really been on a roll cataloguing all the wasteful spending that&#8217;s going on at this G8/G20 summit. His latest reveal: the posters you&#8217;ll see in the backdrop of all the photo-op shots <a href="http://www.ottawasun.com/comment/columnists/greg_weston/2010/06/09/14326951.html">cost over a million</a> of your taxpayers bucks:</p>
<blockquote><p>The latest bit of fiscal fun at public expense is $1,102,500 — wait for it — for backdrops in the two meeting halls hosting the summits. No joke: Foreign Affairs is shelling out over a million bucks for those really big banners and signboards commonly used as backdrops behind speakers’ podiums. These will be used mainly to decorate the meeting halls in Toronto and Muskoka where the world leaders will be gathering for their gabfest and photo op.</p></blockquote>
<p>So, you can add another ridiculous expense to this summit, along with the fake lake, the steamboat, the gazebo, and new toilets 20 km away, that shows the Conservatives are spending taxpayers money like drunken sailors, partially to make themselves look good and get their message out, partially as pork barrel politics. </p>
<p>As an aside, In my opinion, Greg Weston is one of the few reporters at Sunmedia that shows some objectivity and will call the Conservative government out at that chain. One hopes that doesn&#8217;t get muzzled once <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/quebecor-eyes-fox-news-style-tv-for-canada/article1598301/">Kory Teneycke</a> gets his claws into Quebecor.</p>
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		<title>Dumbest excuse put forth to defend Conservative &#8216;fake lake&#8217;?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 15:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scott Tribe</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>So far, that honour appears to go to cabinet minister Peter Kent:</p> <p>Peter Kent, junior foreign affairs minister and former TV anchorman, blamed the media for the fake lake in Toronto, accusing television networks of using make believe backgrounds for their stand ups and interviews. “Every host country provides a media facility and . [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So far, that honour appears to go to cabinet minister <a href="http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/torontog20summit/article/820221--tories-defend-2m-fake-lake-being-built-for-summit">Peter Kent</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Peter Kent, junior foreign affairs minister and former TV anchorman, blamed the media for the fake lake in Toronto, accusing television networks of using make believe backgrounds for their stand ups and interviews. “Every host country provides a media facility and . . . for a less cynical international media this will probably prove to be a benefit,” Kent said.</p></blockquote>
<p>So it&#8217;s the media&#8217;s fault for the fake lake? Did they request the government build them a suitable background? Am I missing something here?</p>
<p>On a slightly related topic, a nice slam here from a couple of Toronto city councillors on the fake lake. First, Toronto councillor Adam Vaughan</p>
<blockquote><p>“If it wasn’t so serious, it would be hysterically funny,” Vaughan told the Star’s Robyn Doolittle. “The federal government refuses to compensate the businesses in my ward for damages, yet they’ll build a $2 million fake lake — across from a real lake. As far as I’m concerned, they can jump in that lake.”</p></blockquote>
<p>And Deputy Mayor Joe Pantalone:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;every year during the Toronto International Boat Show, organizers create a similar fake lake at Ricoh Coliseum. “But there’s no way that would cost $2 million,” he said. “I can’t imagine how it could cost that much — unless they’re buying fancy boats and stocking the water with swordfish.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Late update: we now have the Conservative government trying to hastily correct the costs: apparently, the fake lake part of the media centre costs <a href="The government is trying to correct the price tag associated with the so-called fake lake at the $1.9-million G8/G20 media centre in Toronto.  The mock lake inside the centre will actually be a 10-centimetre-deep pool, built at a cost of $57,000, a source at the summit management office told CBC News. Add in the cost of the rest of the media centre and the total goes up to $1.9 million.  <a href=<br />
"http://www.cbc.ca/politics/story/2010/06/08/g20-fakelake-costs.html?ref=rss#ixzz0qHD84Lfa">&#8216;only&#8217; 57 000$</a>, the rest of the media centre they&#8217;re building makes it go up to 1.9 million$. </p>
<p>Even with this &#8220;revised&#8221; line by line cost of items, how do you justify spending 57 000$ on a 10 cm deep pool? Can&#8217;t you pick a similar thing up at Walmart for under 100$?</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE @ 2:29pm:</strong> Via <a href="http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/06/08/lemme-get-this-straight-more-tax-dollars-so-steve-can-pretend-be-green/">Sister Sage</a>, Greg Weston finds some more spending idiocy:</p>
<blockquote><p>Down the hall from Loonie Lake in the Toronto media centre, taxpayers are being hit up yet again, this time for something called “The Living Wall.” Summit organizers are contracting a massive wall of pre-cultivated plants that come with their own irrigation system. How much The Living Wall will end up costing Canadian taxpayers is anyone’s guess. With two weeks to go before the structure has to be in full bloom, the summit management office sent us a note saying it still had no cost estimates for the project. Likely translation: The bill for this thing is too outrageous for publication&#8230;.</p>
<p>Up north in Muskoka, the summit green theme is also everywhere but on the agenda. For instance, taxpayers are shelling out $207,000 for 15 of what have to be the world’s most expensive solar lights to illuminate the pathways at Deerhurst Resort, where the eight leaders are staying for one night.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Was Guergis kicked out of the Conservative Party due to mere optics?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 14:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scott Tribe</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I read this last night from Aaron Wherry over at Macleans:</p> <p>The private investigator says the Prime Minister’s Office did not accurately report to the ethics commissioner the information he passed on to them. He says he has no evidence as to the conduct of Ms. Guergis in his “possession or knowledge.” The concern, he [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read <a href="http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/05/12/meanwhile-in-guergis/" target="_blank">this</a> last night from Aaron Wherry over at Macleans:</p>
<blockquote><p>The private investigator <a href="http://www.vancouversun.com/news/misrepresented+Guergis+commissioner+Snowdy/3017866/story.html" target="_blank">says</a> the Prime Minister’s Office did not accurately  report to the ethics commissioner the information he passed on to them.  He <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/politics/story/2010/05/12/snowdy-commons-commmitte.html" target="_blank">says</a> he has no evidence as to the conduct of Ms.  Guergis in his “possession or knowledge.” The concern, he <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/private-investigator-tells-committee-he-has-no-evidence-against-guergis/article1566722/" target="_blank">says</a>, was “optics”.</p></blockquote>
<p>But, the <a href="http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/808358--investigator-says-he-s-got-no-proof-of-wrong-doing-by-helena-guergis" target="_blank">PMO&#8217;s chief parrot</a> defends the decision, citing the evidence that Jaffer was using Guergis&#8217; office and email accounts for his personal business dealings. So, since Harper hasn&#8217;t said a word yet about the reasons why Guergis was deposed, would that be his official reason why, since Soudas, his director of communications,  is apparently citing that? If so, what&#8217;s so secretive about that which causes Harper to refuse to cite it publicly?</p>
<p>Otherwise, it appears Harper threw Guergis out of the CPC on an allegation this PI guy claims he never made. I don&#8217;t know how much of this PI&#8217;s testimony you can take at face value; but if he&#8217;s correct,  then Guergis was thrown under the bus  because the negative publicity was apparently a public opinion liability, in Harper&#8217;s view, and he decided not to wait before finding out whether the allegations (whatever they are) were true or not.</p>
<p>Again, I&#8217;m not going to make Hurricane Helena into a tragic heroine here, because I don&#8217;t think she was Cabinet material, and she did some nakedly partisan things in the past (ie. reveal Dion and Ignatieff&#8217;s travel schedule to Afghanistan &#8211; a security no-no), but I wouldn&#8217;t mind at all if she decided to get mad at her treatment by Harper (The &#8220;Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned&#8221; attitude), and run as an independent in Simcoe-Gray to try to win the riding, or at least spoil the Conservative vote and allow the Liberals to come up the middle.</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE @ 3:18 pm</strong>: Helena <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/politics/insidepolitics/2010/05/the-ex-minister-strikes-back-the-very-latest-from-helena-guergis.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&amp;utm_medium=twitter" target="_blank">reacts</a> to the PI&#8217;s testimony.</p>
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		<title>This might be why there&#8217;s no election over Afghan detainee documents</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 14:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scott Tribe</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>.. because if this poll is correct, the electorate is overwhelmingly for human rights and for following international law:</p> <p>A solid majority of Canadians believe prisoners detained by Canadian soldiers have been tortured after being transferred to Afghan authorities, a new Ipsos Reid poll suggests. Pollster John Wright said Canadians are saying they &#8220;care [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.. because if <a href="http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=3006329">this poll</a> is correct, the electorate is overwhelmingly for human rights and for following international law:</p>
<blockquote><p>A solid majority of Canadians believe prisoners detained by Canadian soldiers have been tortured after being transferred to Afghan authorities, a new Ipsos Reid poll suggests. Pollster John Wright said Canadians are saying they &#8220;care deeply&#8221; about the possibility of detainees being tortured after Canadian soldiers have transferred them to Afghan custody. &#8220;They&#8217;re saying it&#8217;s not proper, it should have stopped and, if it didn&#8217;t, somebody should have done something about it,&#8221; he said.<br />
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Almost eight in 10 surveyed said that, assuming transferred detainees were tortured by the Afghan authorities, the actions are &#8220;wrong, and once known should have stopped.&#8221; (Only) One in five, or 19%, agreed with the statement that torture was &#8220;just fine because this is war and this sort of thing happens&#8221;.</p></blockquote>
<p>A couple of bloggers at the National Post will be dismayed to see those polling numbers, I suspect, but I&#8217;m very heartened if this is the case that Canadians do care whether we follow international law, and they think turning people over to be tortured (innocent or guilty) is morally unacceptable.</p>
<p>Most folks surveyed in this poll also believe that the Canadian government was aware that detainees were being turned over and tortured by the Afghan authorities:</p>
<blockquote><p>In the poll, most of those surveyed said that if torture was happening, they believe government officials, politicians and Canadian Forces personnel knew about it. More than half &#8212; 52% &#8212; said they believe Prime Minister Stephen Harper knew what was going on, and the same percentage said they believe individual soldiers knew it was happening, according to the poll. However, a much larger majority &#8212; 75% &#8212; said they believe senior Canadian military officials would have known that transferred prisoners were being tortured. Sixty-five per cent said they believe the minister of defence had to have known, and 66% said they believe the Defence or Foreign Affairs Department were in the know.
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<p>A hat-tip to <a href="http://harperbizarro.blogspot.com/2010/05/hey-stevethis-just-in-not-from-ekos.html">HarperBizarro</a> for the poll, though I&#8217;m not so sure of his conclusions that Harper will soon be going to an election with these numbers in mind. It would be my opinion that Harper should hesitate mightily before going to an election over this issue if the public feels the way it does. The only reason he&#8217;d go to an election over this (and obviously after refusing to obey the Speaker&#8217;s order and being found in contempt of Parliament) is as <a href="http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/2010/04/29/this-is-just-a-hunch/">Andrew Coyne</a> has stated that there is something so monstrous in these documents that they will do anything in their power to avoid being compelled to release them. In that case, they&#8217;d try to run a fear monger/smear campaign against the opposition parties about &#8220;not supporting the troops/trying to compromise national security&#8221;, but that approach doesn&#8217;t seem to have worked so far with public opinion, and I have my doubts it would in an election campaign.</p>
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		<title>This is just a hunch..</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scott Tribe</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>..from seeing some of his responses in QP yesterday (that were also duly noted by media observers) but I&#8217;m going to bet that Harper will not comply with the Speakers ruling to turn over unredacted/uncensored documents to Parliament. </p> <p>I predict he&#8217;ll put on a show of appearing to be reasonable, but in the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>..from seeing some of his responses in QP yesterday (that were also duly <a href="http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/04/28/the-commons-never-mind-the-fine-print/">noted</a> by media <a href="http://www.xtra.ca/blog/ottawa/post/2010/04/29/Harpers-understanding-of-the-Speakers-ruling-questioned.aspx">observers</a>) but I&#8217;m going to bet that Harper will not comply with the Speakers ruling to turn over unredacted/uncensored documents to Parliament. </p>
<p>I predict he&#8217;ll put on a show of appearing to be reasonable, but in the end I suspect he&#8217;ll try to precipitate a crisis over this and hope he can cow the opposition parties into backing off, and failing that, will dissolve Parliament when his government is ruled in contempt of Parliament. It appears to me he&#8217;d rather take his chances with the electorate and try to fear-monger his way into getting a majority government so he can shut down the Parliamentary order and investigations &#8211; instead of turning these documents over to Parliament,  no matter how many security safeguards are put in place. </p>
<p><a href="http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/04/28/showdown-in-the-house/">Andrew Coyne</a> summed it up nicely when he said this in his Maclean&#8217;s column on the Conservative government&#8217;s stance:</p>
<blockquote><p>It is impossible to believe the government could be so reckless. The means of addressing its national security concerns have always been available to it. That it has refused to engage the opposition on these raises two distinct scenarios. Either it is simply too bloody-minded to give an inch to its political foes, on whatever matter, <strong>or the documents contain something truly awful, so scalding to the national conscience that it would be prepared to go to almost any length to suppress them</strong>. Either, that is, it is behaving completely irrationally, in a way that can only be harmful to its own best interests. Or it is behaving all too rationally.</p></blockquote>
<p>In otherwards, where there&#8217;s smoke, there&#8217;s fire. Right now, there&#8217;s a lot of smoke pouring from the Conservative government on this issue.</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE @ 2:37 pm</strong>: And already, Harper&#8217;s half-hearted conciliatory tone in QP yesterday <a href="http://www.citytv.com/toronto/citynews/news/national/article/75773--harper-threatens-election-over-release-of-afghan-documents">lasted all of 1 day</a>. He&#8217;s threatening an election and hinting he wont turn over any documents. (H/T <a href="http://warrenkinsella.com/2010/04/dumb-dumb-dumb-2/">Warren</a>)</p>
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		<title>How conveeeenient.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scott Tribe</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>About the only good thing to say about this next news item is that this is just more evidence to present to the public that the Conservative government must have an awful lot to hide from in these documents, when they&#8217;re not only trying not to let Parliament have uncensored access to them, but [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About the only good thing to say about this next news item is that this is just more evidence to present to the public that the Conservative government must have an awful lot to hide from in these documents, when they&#8217;re not only trying not to let Parliament have uncensored access to them, but also are <a href="http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Detainee+documents+buried+shipping+containers/2956945/story.html">trying to get them lost</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Military Police Complaints Commission heard Tuesday that documents it has requested regarding the transfer of Afghan detainees could take years to sort out. <strong>According to testimony by Maj. Denis Gagnon, the relevant files were “all thrown together in a storage bin, a sea container.” The process of Indexing and cataloguing those documents “may take years,”</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Someone from the opposition parties should be asking in QP tomorrow (or the media, if they can grab a relevant government minister or spokesperson) who in the Conservative government or the Canadian military gave the order to dump some of these detainee docs in a sea ship container and done in such a haphazard that it would take &#8220;years&#8221; to locate and sort &#8211; and when that order was given to do so.</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE @ 9:38 am</strong>: The Chronicle-Herald has mentioned in its story on this that the files are being stored at <a href="http://thechronicleherald.ca/Canada/1179616.html">Kandahar airfield</a> in Afghanistan, but um, they still don&#8217;t where they all are.</p>
<blockquote><p>Stashed away in metal shipping containers somewhere at Kandahar Airfield are documents that could shed light on the Afghan detainee affair, an inquiry heard Tuesday. But more than two years after public hearings were called into the prisoner controversy, the military has yet to find the paperwork and ship it back to Canada.Instead, stacks of detainee transfer orders are &#8220;all thrown together in a storage bin, a sea container&#8221; at the military base, Maj. Denis Gagnon told the Military Police Complaints Commission.</p></blockquote>
<p>Since when did our military become haphazard in handling documents like this?</p>
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		<title>A quote for the ages highlighting that Parliament is Supreme.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 20:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scott Tribe</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p> &#8220;&#8230;accepting an unconditional authority of the executive to censor the information provided to Parliament would in fact jeopardize the very separation of powers that is purported to lie at the heart of our parliamentary system and the independence of its constituent parts.&#8221; - Speaker Milliken </p> <p>Here is the basics, as liveblogged by [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> <em>&#8220;&#8230;accepting an unconditional authority of the executive to censor the information provided to Parliament would in fact jeopardize the very separation of powers that is purported to lie at the heart of our parliamentary system and the independence of its constituent parts.&#8221; </em>- Speaker Milliken
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<p>Here is the basics, as liveblogged by CBC&#8217;s <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/politics/insidepolitics/2010/04/privilegewatch-liveblog-its-all-been-leading-up-to-this.html">Kady O&#8217;Malley</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>..The chair must conclude that it is within the power of the House to ask for the documents; is it also possible to put in place a mechanism to ensure those documents will be protected? That&#8217;s the question, isn&#8217;t it? Milliken points to various suggestions made, from swearing MPs into the Privy Council, in camera review, limited copies..he believes that the House should make *one further effort* to come up with a way to resolve the impasse, however if, in two weeks time, the matter is not behind us, the chair will return with a statement on the appropriate motion that can be moved. <strong>Oh, and yes, it is, in fact, a prima facie case of privilege.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Speaker Miliken&#8217;s ruling in its entirety can be read word for word <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/30588430/Speaker-s-ruling-April-27-2010">here</a>.</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE @ 7:28 pm</strong>: I think its appropriate to once again post this graphic that CAPP made:</p>
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		<title>It&#8217;s all over but the waiting.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scott Tribe</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>It is reported by several media sources today that the Speaker of the House, Peter Miliken,will bring down his ruling today on the opposition parties privilege motions that charge the Conservative government being in contempt of Parliament for refusing to hand over unredacted uncensored documents pertaining to the Afghan detainee issue and what was [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is reported by <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/politics/insidepolitics/2010/04/orders-of-the-day-decision-day-decision-day-it-just-may-be-decision-day.html">several</a> media <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/precedent-setting-afghan-detainee-ruling-due-today/article1548154/">sources</a> today that the Speaker of the House, Peter Miliken,will bring down his ruling today on the opposition parties privilege motions that charge the Conservative government being in contempt of Parliament for refusing to hand over unredacted uncensored documents pertaining to the Afghan detainee issue and what was known about torture.  It is reportedly a 45 minute speech, so it&#8217;s obvious Miliken put a lot of thought into whatever his ruling says today. It will take place shortly after Question Period ends, at around 3 pm.</p>
<p>What will he rule? Warren seems to think the Speaker will <a href="http://warrenkinsella.com/2010/04/hell-cave/">&#8220;cave&#8221;</a> to Harper &#8211; because he hasn&#8217;t had a history of making bold decisions (which I agree is a valid point &#8211; Miliken has been a very risk-averse Speaker more wanting to wash his hands of certain matters then deal with them directly in a raucous minority government situation).</p>
<p>I hope that&#8217;s not the case. If there is precedent for Parliament&#8217;s supremacy, and the opposition parties have made that case here, then Miliken hopefully hasn&#8217;t avoid issuing that ruling because he is afraid of the consequences.</p>
<p>(More from me after the ruling is issued, and I have time to digest what he said).</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE</strong>: If you want to see some evidence of contempt of Parliament, check out this <a href="http://twitter.com/SusanDelacourt/status/12953820719">Tweet</a> from The Toronto Star&#8217;s Susan Delacourt:</p>
<p><em>PM won&#8217;t be in the HoC for Speaker&#8217;s ruling. He&#8217;ll be meeting a Nobel Prize winner.</em></p>
<p>Harper appears to be  either confident the Speaker won&#8217;t rule against him, or he simply doesn&#8217;t care even if he does.</p>
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		<title>Arrogance</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scott Tribe</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The arrogance (not to mention the paranoid secrecy) of this government can be highlighted by this particular exchange between a Justice Department lawyer and the Military Police Complaints Commission, in a dispute over the government not releasing documents to the Commission:</p> <p>Commission counsel said it&#8217;s hard to know what documents are out there when [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The arrogance (not to mention the paranoid secrecy) of this government can be highlighted by <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/justice-lawyer-argues-against-releasing-reams-of-detainee-documents/article1540390/">this particular exchange</a> between a Justice Department lawyer and the Military Police Complaints Commission, in a dispute over the government not releasing documents to the Commission:</p>
<blockquote><p>Commission counsel said it&#8217;s hard to know what documents are out there when the government gets to “unilaterally” decide what gets released and what doesn&#8217;t. “We have no idea what the universe of documents is that the government is reviewing,” lawyer Ron Lunau said. But Mr. Prefontaine argued the commission&#8217;s mandate is limited and certain documents are out of bounds.</p>
<p>The commission also took the government to task for dragging its feet in releasing some documents. Acting chair Glenn Stannard asked Mr. Prefontaine when the commission could expect some.  <strong>“Documents will be turned over to the counsel when they&#8217;re good and ready,” Mr. Prefontaine replied.</strong> Mr. Stannard eventually called for a break, but not before admonishing Mr. Prefontaine: “I find that close to offensive, not only to this panel, but also to the public.”</p></blockquote>
<p>In otherwards, the government is saying WE will decide when you get to see documents, and what you get to see; another reason one hopes that the Speaker of the House will find the government in contempt of Parliament when he issues his expected ruling this week, and order the turning over of said documents to Parliament to find out what it is the government is trying to hide so desperately.</p>
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