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Which Guelph Cons asked Doug Finley to oust Brent Barr?

There was a piece in the Toronto Star talking about Doug Finley and his role in the Conservative Party. In that piece it mentioned how no Conservative candidate can run without his permission, and it brought up 2 rather specific examples of this – Mark Warner being ousted in Toronto, and Brent Barr in Guelph. The part about Barr is very interesting, because it mentions that Ottawa didn’t act first to oust Barr – but according to 1 Barr supporter, it was some Guelph Conservatives who initiated the complaint:

In late 2007, Guelph Tories had problems with candidate Brent Barr, a business leader. Despite her nomination loss to Barr, party […]

Be careful what you wish for.

I found this today on Youtube from the recent Guelph all-candidates debates. It shows Liberal candidate Frank Valeriote giving an answer to what a candidate would do if in a hypothetical situation his/her leader called and said their particular party no longer existed, what party would they support?

The person who left this at Youtube – an obvious Conservative supporter, and with a name that makes me guess pretty well who it is – used it to assert that Frank was openly advocating the unification of the political left in Canada, and that if that was the case, he didn’t see the reason why there should be a Liberal […]

Guelph Greens claim to be in 2nd place from little-known pollster.

This may be a tad irrelevant now that it looks certain that Harper will call a general election before the by-election date, thus cancelling them out, but the Guelph Greens are crowing about this poll that was taken in the riding showing them to be in 2nd place:

The poll, conducted Sept. 1 and 2 by Oraclepoll Research, shows Green Party support is now almost twice as high as the Conservativesí and three times the level of the NDP .The standings are: Frank Valeriote, Liberals 38.4%; Mike Nagy Green Party 24.2%; Gloria Kovach, Conservatives 12.6%; Tom King, NDP 8.0%. A further 16.7% of voters are undecided..The Oraclepoll survey was conducted on Sept, 1 and 2 with 300 electors who say they are certain to vote. The polls margin of error is +/-5.7%, 19 times out of 20.

This would be a stunning result if it were accurate. The caveat there is IF it is accurate. The pollster doesn’t exactly have a lot of history of doing a lot of polls. So, as much as I’m tempted to want to believe Ms Kovach of the Cons is floundering at that level of support, I’m going to have to put this one in my “sceptical” drawer.

Inflammatory “ten percenters” on the gun registry goes too far.

Just a little follow up to my blogpost detailing the vandalism and criminal acts that took place in Guelph on Friday. When you see stuff like this:

or this:

…you’d think maybe the Conservatives should have known better then to be passing around this latest “10 percenter” ad I received in the mail this past Friday, which condemns the Long Gun Registry with the usual Conservative talking points and saying that they’re scrapping it with† some apocalyptic and incendiary language like this?

“How can they (the Liberals) continue to hide behind the ridiculous long-gun registry, blatantly insulting law-abiding farmers and hunters while violent criminals continue to menace our streets? The Conservative Government is ending the insult… we’re restoring the dignity and respect for the farmers, hunters and sportsmen who have been persecuted…”

This ad (part of it seen at the end of this blogpost) was sent out in Oxford on behalf of the local MP, Dave Mackenzie. I’m presuming the Conservatives are sending this bit of propaganda to their rural ridings prior to the election call so that they can try and stir up anger among that portion of the electorate. My point about this is when the Conservatives use such venom and use such inflammatory remarks in going after the gun registry,† I’m not sure it should be much surprise that some wingnut(s) (or psychopath(s), as Matthew called the person/persons) gets enraged at reading this kind of† poisonous remarks and then goes out and causes havoc, as they did in Guelph. I mean, read Matthew’s account of what could have happened to some neighbours of his† who were one of the homes victimized by this:

We had friends over who live two doors away from one of the vandalized homes. Their neighbours’ home was spraypainted and the car keyed. However, it wasn’t until they called the police to report the vandalism that they were warned to check their brakelines – which were indeed cut. Had the police not warned them that this was part of the psychopathic vandals’ attacks, they could very well have died – all routes leading from their house head downhill.

If the Conservatives want to attack the gun registry, fine;† but stop using over-the-top remarks like what’s in this disgrace for an ad.† There’s a difference of using language here† that will potentially motivate your core voters to vote, and using language that can potentially motivate people to go out and damage property and do stuff like cutting brake lines that can kill someone.

I’m not saying this particular 10 percenter ad caused this orgy of vandalism and sabotage in Guelph. I’m just saying the type of inflammatory language used in this ad could incite some crackpot wingnut with anger management issues to go and take his anger out on Liberal supporters, with potentially deadly results, such as what would have happened in Guelph if someone had driven off to work not knowing their brake lines had been sabotaged.

(And yea, I’m extremely angry at what occurred in Guelph.)

Vandalism done to Liberal supporters signs, properties, and cars in Guelph

There was a shocking display of election vandalism going on in Guelph last night. In this instance, homes with Liberal signs were targeted. Liberal supporters signs and houses were spray-painted with graffiti (it appears that at least 10 homes were vandalized), and at least 6 cars were keyed and their cars brake lines were tampered with and cut. This is more then just a prank – someone could have been killed if they hadn’t noticed and went driving off in their car.

Here are some pictures of the vandalism.

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There was a joint news release from all 4 campaigns. It reads as follows:

“Ye reap what ye sow”

Christian Conservative, better known now as Andrew Prescott, riding president of the Guelph Conservative Party, has finally resurfaced a week or so after his cover was blown, with a blogpost bemoaning “gotcha politics”.

I find it rather ironic he’s moaning about gotcha politics when he engaged in it first. You might remember he got ticked off at a post done at Far and Wide and decided to blurt across the internet Steve V’s identity. Actually, let me change my first sentence: I find him extremely hypocritical.

Not only that; he’s missing the point entirely. First, he hid or tried to hide his association with the Guelph Conservative Party. Even on […]

KLRvu polling methodology update

Well, we’ve had quite a few of blogposts on the KLRvu pollsters and their polling numbers for Guelph throughout the blogosphere (including yours truly), and even one by David Akin looking at them. All this publicity no doubt thrills Allan Bruinooge, the head of the polling company, to no end.

I mentioned on Friday that I’d written the polling firm asking them of the 3396 households they polled in Guelph, how many of those refused to answer, hung up, etc. I received this response in email from Mr Bruinooge, and to be fair to him, I’ll quote his reply in full. He explains that the 3396 figure is the final […]

Gloria finally graces Guelph voters with her presence, gets grilled.

Gloria Kovach, Conservative candidate in Guelph,† did finally decide to show up to an all-candidates debate last evening.† I’m pleased to see she finally found it worth her time and the voters time to attend. One of the questions that got brought up last night at that debate was why she was the candidate for Guelph, and not Brent Barr, the duly elected candidate by the local Guelph CPC riding members. You might remember he got unceremoniously removed without any particular reason given by the national Conservative Party.†The only “reason” I seem to recall given by the national CPC was that he wasn’t working hard enough to win the riding, which is a pretty lame excuse, in my view. I think they owe the local Guelph CPC riding members a better explanation then that for removing the candidate they felt would best represent them in the riding; it seems to me to be more Conservative control freak tactics, which has been typical of Harper and the national CPC since they came to power.

Needless to say, Gloria wasn’t very comfortable answering that, and I don’t blame her, as she was the direct beneficiary of the move, when she had already lost the nomination to Barr in a fair and square fight.† Whether she knew of this manoeuvrer or not, it’s clear she was the favourite of the national CPC and of Harper, and they were making sure she was the candidate for Guelph, the local CPC riding members wishes be darned. Anyhow, I believe “the phantom in†the room” (as the Guelph Mercury blog put it) will continue to haunt Gloria in this campaign, as every other candidate grilled her over this as well as the national CPC for failing to provide a reasonable explanation for Barr’s removal.

From eyewitness reports, Gloria also took her lumps from Liberal candidate Frank Valeriote for being the only councillor to vote against a motion to have Guelph endorse a national campaign asking the federal government for more infrastructure help and to meet their commitments to cities.† Perhaps some who were at the debate might leave additional comments on that and other goings on from last night, but it sounds like the crowd really reacted to that revelation.

In other news,† it seems that Jeff Davidson over at his blog has discovered the Guelph riding president of the CPC has been writing his political opinions on a blog under a pseudonym, and has been asking Gloria in a couple of open letters if she supports his rather right-wing views on certain issues. To find out more, check out some of those links to his site.

An encouraging poll result in Guelph, but the race is far from over.

Byelections normally don’t get polled, so there’s been some question as to how the races in these 3 byelections have been developing. I noted a column today from Thomas Walkom in the Star where he said Guelph was one of those ridings that theoretically, the Conservatives should be able to win because of its demographics and economic situation. So, this first poll I’ve seen on the Guelph byelection if accurate will be a bit of a downer for the Cons. in this riding. On the other hand, its very encouraging news for the Liberals and Frank Valeriote’s campaign in Guelph:

Frank Valeriote looks to become the next Member of Parliament […]

“Team Kovach”

Just as a followup to my last blogpost, look what Jeff Davidson of the blog “Where’d That Bug Go” found at Guelph Conservative candidate Gloria Kovach’s website. Take a look at the picture titled “Team Kovach”, and look who happens to be in that picture and part of Gloria’s team:

Why, it’s “average Guelph citizen” Barry Osmond! Do you still consider his website to be evidence of “grassroots opposition growing” to the Green Shift, Mr. Nicholls?

I think we can put that bit of spin to rest.

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