I was thinking about that comparison as I digest a surprising Liberal majority in Ontario this AM (but the folks at Forum and Ekos with their last polls called it – so kudos to them. I think Nanos also had 1 poll out that pretty well mirrored the results).
Thinking back to 2011, Harper was (and still isn’t) not a universally loved leader, but Ignatieff was less popular then him (due both to attack ads and his personality in general, I’d argue). In Ontario, the OLP as a whole were not obviously loved by all due to some of their track record, but Hudak was disliked worse, it seems.
My initial (biased) impressions of the debate are:
– As someone who is supporting the OLP, I’d have much preferred if Wynne had started stronger, but the first two topics were always going to be the tough ones, and I’m not sure whether I’d have done much better. I did think she recovered after that and “held the line” as it were. I don’t think she was struck with any fatal blow per se. I know on social media some people were commenting on Premier Wynne’s hand movements, but I’ve always found Ms. Wynne to be a demonstrative person; she was like that at the OLP leadership convention as well. […]
Your one narrative that is going around the media and which Premier Wynne has decided to target extensively today: Tim Hudak’s bungled million jobs plan numbers:
..Based on a backgrounder distributed by the Progressive Conservatives to journalists, but not posted on their website, it is clear that the planners confused person-years of employment with permanent jobs. This confusion led them to vastly overestimate the effect of their proposed job-creating measures. The result was that the half million jobs the Progressive Conservatives were promising to create with their plan (base-case economic growth was expected to provide the other half-million jobs) was really only about 75,000 (ST: my highlight) —fewer than […]
First off, yes, this is a Forum poll, but like BigcityLib, I’ll take it as a starting point as to what people think of Tim Hudak’s 100 000 public sector job cuts/1 million jobs created dual promises. So far, they don’t like it at all, or they don’t believe Timmy can do what he claims:
Nearly two-thirds of Ontarians disapprove of Tim Hudak’s plan to cut 100,000 public servants to streamline government, a new poll suggests..The Forum Research survey also found 63 per cent do not think the Progressive Conservative leader will be able to create his promised 1 million new jobs
Thas has translated to the polls as well […]
I’m almost starting to wonder whether Tim Hudak isn’t doing all of these “gaffes” on purpose; he and his campaign strategists surely can’t be THIS inept (can they?):
The latest misstep happened Sunday, when Toronto Transit Commission enforcement officers broke up the Tory leader’s announcement in a busy subway car. Mr. Hudak, his entourage and a group of reporters were ejected from the train after the PCs failed to clear the event with the transit agency, which bans political campaigning in the system..Such stumbles are particularly strange given how well-organized the PCs claim to be..But on the first days of campaigning last week, Mr. Hudak twice staged news conferences at […]
Tim Hudak hasn’t exactly started off the unofficial Ontario election campaign in a blaze of glory. His opening day campaign stop yesterday to talk about his “million jobs” pledge stumbled when the recording studio owner (formerly of Triumph) noted he voted against The Music Fund in the 2013 Budget.
Okay, so that was a stumble… but to repeat it a day later? That’s almost hilarious:
For the second day Tory Leader Tim Hudak had to defend his position on so-called corporate welfare. On Tuesday, Hudak chose to make his standard jobs pitch, including his opposition to government bailouts, at Automatic Coating Limited, which received $50,000 from the federal Conservative […]
Yesterday won’t count as one of Ontario PC leader Tim Hudak’s better days. First came this snippet from the Windsor Star that the party had “fired” their candidate in Essex from last election over a dispute on “right to work” legislation:
Dave Brister was fired today as the Ontario PC candidate in Essex for publicly criticizing the party’s support of right-to-work legislation…“I was asked to recant my opposition to RTW legislation in exchange for retaining my position & I refused to do so,” Brister tweeted. Brister was a popular and conservative Windsor city councillor before stepping down to run in Essex in the last Ontario general election in 2011. Brister […]
Tim Hudak will not face a leadership review, the Progressive Conservative delegates decreed at their convention yesterday in London. Tim Hudak is very happy. His party supporters are very happy.
The only ones possibly as happy are the Ontario Liberal Party and the NDP. They face face a lot easier task beating the PC Party with Tim Hudak at its helm (the Mike Harris leftover) then say, a more moderate and more popular leader.
The sun is shining across Ontario’s political divide. For this day at least, everyone is unified. Thanks PC party.
Well, the Ontario legislature resumes sitting today. You’ll note in the story about it this morning in the Toronto Star that there is not a single mention of PC Leader Tim Hudak resigning (or even mentioning him for that matter).
Unless things change in the hours before the Legislature formally opens, that means I’ve won my bet with Jim Calder that he made with me that due to the poor PC byelection results earlier this summer, Hudak would either voluntarily submit to a leadership review/allow an easier implementation of it at the PC Convention later this year (he actually exhorted the PC’s executive not to, but they overruled his appeals), […]
I’ve spoken before about an ongoing bet I’ve had with fellow Liberal blogger Jim Calder over whether or not Ontario Progressive Conservative leader Tim Hudak would either voluntarily resign or voluntarily call for a leadership review before Sept 9 (the day the Ontario legislature is recalled), in the wake of some disgruntled Tories calling for said review of his and his parties dismal performance in last month’ Ontario by-elections.
It appears I’m going to win that bet:
Tories upset with beleaguered Tim Hudak’s leadership will get to air their beefs at the party’s policy convention next month despite Hudak’s objections, the Star has learned. The Progressive Conservative Party of […]